UPDATE:The Amazon Kindle has been out for over a year. Now is a good time to update this beginner's guide to content.


First things first: Kindle Edition e-books are only slightly different from DRM'ed Mobipocket e-books. If not for the DRM, the Kindle would be just another Mobipocket e-reader. You need to know this, otherwise you might be puzzled by the following.


Mobipocket Desktop 6.0 will recognize the Kindle as a reading device, and synchronize your e-books and RSS feeds correctly. This is important because Mobipocket disabled this feature in next version of the Desktop software (6.1), where the Kindle is no longer recognized as a reader device but only as a USB drive. You can download Mobipocket Desktop 6.0 here (http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/oIKTSXcQZuQTMbuVnGTJNHsi_PW2lSWc9jBNPVzdZIPJyVPKOG Xgol67ilXNeF5kR8ynalMcv5ij_xGvaSk8fSWXu8MaNSzutlzW AkIc/mobireadersetup6.0.msi). A note of caution: If you already have a later version of Mobipocket Desktop, you will need to uninstall it first. Be careful though. If you are using the current installation to support your existing DRM'ed Mobipocket e-books, you will need to re-download them after you reinstall the older Mobipocket software. If you can't download your e-books again for whatever reason, you perhaps shouldn't uninstall the existing software.

EDIT: You can also use calibre to support your Kindle. Calibre runs natively on XP, OSX, and Linux. It is better than MobiDesktop in every way. You can download it here (http://calibre.kovidgoyal.net/download).


There are over 34k newsfeeds available through Mobipocket Desktop. The process is simple to set up; you select the feeds, and set them to be downloaded onto your device. Downloading the feeds to your Kindle is automatic. Click here (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19569) for a partial list of feeds that have full articles attached.

EDIT: Calibre can also download newsfeeds, as well as an entire day's content of a news website like the NY Times.


Because the Kindle and Mobipocket e-book formats are basically identical, it is possible to buy an e-book in Mobipocket and (with some work) load it onto your Kindle. However, I currently know of only two retailers where you can officially do this (if you want to know why, click here (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?p=142714#post142714)). These are Fictionwise (http://www.fictionwise.com) and BooksOnBoard (http://www.booksonboard.com). It may also work at your local library, if it offers Mobipocket e-books.

There are several steps required. The first is to tell the retailer the PID of your Kindle. If you have Mobipocket Desktop 6.0 installed, you can find the Kindle's PID under the reading devices menu. Next, you need to download igorsk's hack (<<direct download link removed>>, and a python interpreter (http://www.python.org/download/). For more information, click here (http://igorsk.blogspot.com/2007/12/mobipocket-books-on-kindle.html). If you have trouble, ask for help here (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17239).


One neat feature of the Kindle is its ability to download e-books from the Internet directly onto your device. Feedbooks (http://www.feedbooks.com) has an e-book guide full of links to free e-books. Personally I think it's one of the best sites on the Internet. You can download the guide here (http://www.feedbooks.com/kindleguide) and learn more here (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/mobiguide). Munsey's (http://www.munseys.com) is another site with excellent quality content. They also have a mobile version of their site here (http://www.munseys.com/joomla/).

EDIT: At the beginning of February, Amazon added around 7k free public domain ebooks to the Kindle store.The ebooks you will find through the links I provided above are much better quality.

This last part is about my preferred e-book format, Microsoft .LIT (Microsoft Reader). I prefer this format because it lets me protect my e-book investment. While I certainly won't explain how to strip DRM, I will say that to convert your purchased .LIT e-books, you need to download and install two components: ConvertLIT (http://www.google.com/search?q=convertlit) and Mobipocket Creator (http://www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/ProductDetailsCreator.asp). When you run ConvertLIT, it will explode the .LIT file into its single parts. After this you need to click on the OPF file; Mobipocket Creator should open automatically. Then all you have to do is click on "make the book". The output will be a nearly perfect conversion.


P.S. There are a few things I left out, like the Kindle Easter Eggs (http://igorsk.blogspot.com/2007/12/hacking-kindle-part-3-root-shell-and.html). But I think I included enough to get a beginner off to a good start!

You are a great man. I wish you wrote it earlier. You basically summarized all the tricked I learned in the past two weeks since I got my kindle...

Highly recommend for the newbie.

*extra karma points for Nate* ... you can do it too if you like his tutorial ;)

If all you want is the RSS feeds, you may want to look into installing the OLD "Mobipocket Web Companion". It was part of the Reader install before 5.0,which is still available on the Mobipocket site. It will do RSS feeds nicely, as well as a lot of very nice newspapers snarfed directly. It can be configured to email this result to the Kindle. (Or you can run a batch script to move the stuff to the Kindle as a hard drive.)

It's not part of 4.9. If you have a copy, I'd appreciate it if you'd post it here.

If all you want is the RSS feeds, you may want to look into installing the OLD "Mobipocket Web Companion". It was part of the Reader install before 5.0,which is still available on the Mobipocket site. It will do RSS feeds nicely, as well as a lot of very nice newspapers snarfed directly. It can be configured to email this result to the Kindle. (Or you can run a batch script to move the stuff to the Kindle as a hard drive.)
I don't get the advantage of "Mobipocket Web Companion" over the currently eNews... Isn't eNews based on RSS as well?

There would be an advantage if it could indeed email the file. It doesn't seem to be capable of emailing the file generated by the news feeds. Anyway, it's old and does less than
the current software.

If anyone wants to mess with it, I found it here:
http://www.tucows.com/preview/76800


P.S. For a 6 year old piece of software, it's not bad.

You can also use the mobile version of Feedbooks on your Kindle: http://feedbooks.mobi

Not as convenient as the guide, but you can access some other features this way. For example, you can list the top downloaded books for a genre.

I'll add the possibility to sign in on the mobile version this week: this way you'll be able to leave comments about a book, or get a customized list of recommended books.

You can also use the mobile version of Feedbooks on your Kindle: http://feedbooks.mobi

Not as convenient as the guide, but you can access some other features this way. For example, you can list the top downloaded books for a genre.

I'll add the possibility to sign in on the mobile version this week: this way you'll be able to leave comments about a book, or get a customized list of recommended books.

I just realized that you have the RSS->enewspaper service. Could you add mobipocket format? It would be a plus to provide auto email service to kindle too...

I just realized that you have the RSS->enewspaper service. Could you add mobipocket format? It would be a plus to provide auto email service to kindle too...

Yes we will add Mobipocket support, but I don't think we'll add email service. Instead it'll work like our guide/mobile website. Just open the file listing your RSS subscriptions, click on the link and you get the file on your Kindle.

I just wanted to say that I've been informed of another source of Mobipocket format ebooks for the Kindle: Ebooks.com (http://www.ebooks.com). It just checked myself; it accepts a Kindle PID. Also, we have at least one member who has loaded Mobipocket ebooks from his public library on to his Kindle.

My public library uses the OverDrive servers and I've successfully loaded books and opened them on my Kindle.

I was buying a book from booksonboard.com. As I was trying to put in my PID in my account, it said that I had a invalid PID because of that *. Would anyone please let me know what did I do wrong? Or booksonboard simply stop accepting Kindle PID. I was buying a secure mobi(FR) type file, and was trying to setup a device in the FR device catagory. After downloading, I tried kindlefix on the file and got the message that the PID didn't match, that how I found out my PID was not allowed to be entered with the * character by booksonboard.

Delete the FR one, and try to register it as OD. It's the OD servers that allow the *.

Hi Nate,

Thanks for your pointers. I havent got the kindle yet but Ill most probably have it in my hand by next week, so I am researching about stuff ...

I wanted to ask you guys,

Is it possible to convert stuff I have bought from amazon into pdfs? I want to have them in my digital book archive next to my PDF files.

Thanks in advance

Yes, but we don't discuss it here because the procedure is equally useful to the pirate and the legitimate user. I will give you a hint, and let you figure it out on your own. Look here (http://igorsk.blogspot.com/2007/12/hacking-kindle-part-3-root-shell-and.html).

Thanks alot man. This seems like it will take some time to digest but it looks really interesting.

Take care

I found another Mobipocket retailer that Kindle owners can use. The list now includes:

Ebookmall (http://www.ebookmall.com)
Fictionwise (http://www.fictionwise.com)
ebooks.com (http://www.ebooks.com)
BooksOnBoard (http://www.booksonboard.com)
I cannot recommend the last one.

I installed Mobipocket Desktop 6.0 on my Vista machine. It recognizes when I plug in my smartphone - but when I plug in my Kindle it dosnt recognize it. Has anybody seen this?

In the about it says it Version : 6.0 Build 580.

Do you think in the new Kindles they did something to make it not recognize?!

I'll find out tomorrow when my replacement Kindle arrives. I'm running XP but I would imagine the outcome should be similar.

If they really block MobiPocket Desktop from now on, shouldn't every Kindle be affected ? They can automatically push firmware updates using EVDO.

You'd think so but at least on my dead screen Kindle MobiPocket Desktop 6.0 still recognizes my Kindle and displays its PID.

It makes sense to "upgrade" the MobiPocket Desktop to exclude the Kindle instead of pushing out a firmware release via EVDO. When you open MobiPocket Desktop it will tell you if there is new version available and ask if you want to install it. Most people will upgrade automatically, I know that I did. But I was able to uninstall 6.1 and reinstall 6.0.

Amazon was probably getting complaints from Kindle owners that they weren't able to add their Kindle PID at MobiPocket to read DRMed ebooks. I know that I was told that MobiPocket Desktop does not support the Kindle from both MobiPocket and Amazon. Shortly after that 6.1 arrived with the Kindle only showing up as an USB drive.

I'm hoping that the PID is still based on the serial number so igorsk's fix will work if 6.0 doesn't recognize my new Kindle.

I'll find out probably tomorrow afternoon, US East Coast time.

The PID would have to be based off of the serial number. Any other scheme would open the door to people finding a way to change the PID of their device. We all know where that would lead. I seem to recall that mobipocket bases its PID off hardware serial. As for the rest, I installed Mobi 6.0 on Vista the other day. It did not recognize my Kindle. I was disappointed.

Must be something with Vista. I just received my replacement Kindle and 6.0 found it and gave me the PID. BTW, I'm using XP SP2.

Hi all! Just got my kindle and wanted to say that mobipocket 6.0 (from here) is not recognizing for me on Vista either. Bummer!

I forgot that I had MobiPocket on my Vista tablet computer and it didn't find my Kindle either.

If you want the PID just use igorsk's script. It works.

If you want the PID just use igorsk's script. It works.

Oooo -- what and where is that? I don't have any mobipocket desktop installed (I'm on a mac) but I'd love to know my Kindle's ID. I can find a PC if I need to (okay, it's also on my desk, but I only use it once a quarter or less), to run said script. But I really don't want to bother installing the desktop thing.

There are threads on this Forum, but the direct link to the script is Mobipocket Books on Kindle (http://igorsk.blogspot.com/2007/12/mobipocket-books-on-kindle.html). Be sure to read the comments for pastebin bonus scripts.

Look here link removed on Amazon's request. You'll also need a python interpreter, which you can find here (http://www.python.org/download/).

Hi all! Just got my kindle and wanted to say that mobipocket 6.0 (from here) is not recognizing for me on Vista either. Bummer!

Same thing. Vista itself sees the Kindle just fine but Mobipocket doesn't, dang. Worked fine under XP.

I just tried to install the mobipocket 6.0 software and got an error that says
"The READER.EXE file is linked to missing export SETUPAPI.DLL:CM_Get_Parent."

Any ideas on what I need to do?

Get a Sony Reader?

I'll help you when I get home :) (I'm at work now).

What version of Windows are you using?

http://www.mobipocket.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=26457&sid=494a2df12b48a1e8fdca8ae0e7bfb752

I just tried to install the mobipocket 6.0 software and got an error that says
"The READER.EXE file is linked to missing export SETUPAPI.DLL:CM_Get_Parent."

Any ideas on what I need to do?

Are you running XP or Vista? You don't really need the 6.0 version unless you're trying to capture the Kindle's PID (via XP) and there is another way to do that.

Download the current MobiPocket Reader version 6.2 from the MobiPocket site here (http://www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/default.asp?Language=EN). Here are the differences between the versions I noticed.

I experimented with a couple of versions of Mobipocket on my dual boot XP/Vista laptop. Here are the results.


If Mobipocket 6.0 is installed on Windows XP, the Kindle will be recognized and it's PID will be captured.

If Mobipocket 6.0 is installed on Windows Vista, the Kindle will not be recognized at all and you will be asked to attach your handheld device... incessantly.

If Mobipocket 6.2 is installed on Windows Vista, the Kindle will be recognized and and additional drive but no PID will be captured.


If you're running Vista, try to install Mobipocket on an XP machine with your Kindle attached long enough to get the PID. That way you can run 6.2 on your Vista machine and just fill in the PID you got from the XP machine.

:)

GatorDeb: I am using an old computer with ME, I guess that might be the problem.

daffy4u: I was just trying to capture the PID, you mentioned another way to do that, how?

ME doesn't work. Follow that link I posted and you can download 4.9 which does work :)

I was just trying to capture the PID, you mentioned another way to do that, how? Use kindlepid.py, see How to make Igor's script work (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18310).

GatorDeb: I am using an old computer with ME, I guess that might be the problem.

daffy4u: I was just trying to capture the PID, you mentioned another way to do that, how?

I have no experience with ME so I'm not sure how to advise you. This information on capturing the Kindle PID should work because it's a command line [DOS] procedure.

You can read about the scripts for capturing the Kindle PID and links to the Python scripts here (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17239). You're going to need your Kindle's registration number which you can get from the Manage Your Kindle page. I don't know if you can get the registration number before you receive your Kindle.

How to make the script work (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=134060&postcount=4). This is the post that was clearest to me.

I was a total novice when it came to running scripts on my XP PC. It took me a couple of days of trial and error but this is what worked.

1. Download and install Python. I installed version 2.5. It is in a directory labeled: c:\Python25
2. Download and unzip Igor's scripts. Either unzip or move the scripts to c:\Python25\Tools\Scripts
3. Edit the PATH to include the Python executable and the path to the scripts (where you placed Igor's scripts). In XP right-click on "My Computer" then click on "Properties","Advanced" tab, "Environmental Variables". In the System Variables window find and highlight "PATH" and click edit. Add the paths. The two paths I added were ;c:\Python25 and ;c:\Python25\Tools\Scripts. Please note that each path starts with a semi-colon ";" Be sure your typing is correct and click "OK" Keep clicking "OK" until you're out of the System Properties window.

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I was able to convert all my MobiPocket ebooks from one of two ebook stores. *However*, 95% of the books did not show titles when loaded onto the Kindle. There's a fix for that MobiPerl thread (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?p=133359#post133359) Fortunately, you won't have to install Perl to get this to work assuming the Windows executables work in Vista. I was able to add back title and author to the file so that I could see them on the Kindle.

I'm no expert but I'm not afraid to try new (at least to me) things on the PC.

I don't know what, if any, differences there are to running all this in Vista but if there are, I hope you let us know.

HTH

Get a Sony Reader?

Seriously. How does that help?

BOb

GatorDeb: I am using an old computer with ME, I guess that might be the problem.


Wow, I didn't see that one coming. I didn't think anyone still used ME.

BOb

Seriously. How does that help?

BOb
No need to actually install Mobipocket Reader to go along with a Sony.

No need to actually install Mobipocket Reader to go along with a Sony.

Ah. Well, there's no "need" to install it at all no matter what reader you have.

BOb

My actual computer is being repaired, so until I purchase teh new harddrive it requires I am suffereing through the old computer!

I downloaded python and the scripts as instructed, but I get lost on step 3 in the step by step insructions daffy4u posted, apparently it works diffently in ME because right clicking on my computer dosn't give me those options. I am about ready to give up and just accept that I will use amazon as my only source since apparently you need some sort of PhD in computers to get the rest of this junk to work. I assumed that being able to convert files would be simple!

My actual computer is being repaired, so until I purchase teh new harddrive it requires I am suffereing through the old computer!

I downloaded python and the scripts as instructed, but I get lost on step 3 in the step by step insructions daffy4u posted, apparently it works diffently in ME because right clicking on my computer dosn't give me those options. I am about ready to give up and just accept that I will use amazon as my only source since apparently you need some sort of PhD in computers to get the rest of this junk to work. I assumed that being able to convert files would be simple!

I did a little Google Seach. See if this link (a page with pictures, yay!) helps you with ME.

http://www.chem.gla.ac.uk/~louis/software/faq/q1.html#win98

Install Windows 4.9:
http://www.mobipocket.com/soft/readerpro/MobipocketReaderPC.exe

Or, if you trust me, send me your Kindle's serial number to gvillepics@yahoo.com and I will do it for you and give you your Kindle's PID.

Ah. Well, there's no "need" to install it at all no matter what reader you have.

BOb
This is true. It really isn't needed at all now that you mention it.

I was really edge about buying this, but i'm really glad i did http://1person1million.com/img/64/p08k0929xkkl/icon_mrgreen.gif

Getting the PID won't help her long term if she can't run the Kindlepid.py script as she'll eventually need to run kindlefix.py anyway.

Create a sub-folder under Python25. Make sure it has no spaces in the name. Use the folder to store the kindlepid.py and kindlefix.py scripts as well as any documents you are converting.

You should be able to run the scripts from this subfolder without adding the path to your system variables (step 3) as long as everything is under the Python25 folder.

Hello All,
I just got a Kindel for my wife and have downloaded some books via USB. Works fine. I also installed a 16 GB SDHC card and the Kindel reports 15 GB.

My question is: Can the library be segregated into folders for author or genre or even into sub-folders? A mass of books listed in a library seems a mess. Not fully understanding the system, I don't want to screw anything up.

Thanks,
Charlie

Hello All,
I just got a Kindel for my wife and have downloaded some books via USB. Works fine. I also installed a 16 GB SDHC card and the Kindel reports 15 GB.

My question is: Can the library be segregated into folders for author or genre or even into sub-folders? A mass of books listed in a library seems a mess. Not fully understanding the system, I don't want to screw anything up.

Thanks,
Charlie

Yes an no. Out of the box, no you can't do it. But, if you want to use mobi2mobi you can set up folders. See this thread..http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30947&highlight=kindle+folder

BOb

Great omfo from nate. however, I went ahead and purchased some books from mobile refernce .con. the books seem to be in a DRM format and I don't know how to get them to read on my Kindle. Any ideas??:bookworm:

I went ahead and purchased some books from mobile refernce .con. Based on the web site, these seem to be MOBI ebooks. I'm not sure they have DRM. Did you try them "as is" on your Kindle?

Great omfo from nate. however, I went ahead and purchased some books from mobile refernce .con. the books seem to be in a DRM format and I don't know how to get them to read on my Kindle. Any ideas??:bookworm:

Did you place the books in the "documents" folder on your Kindle?

My public library uses the OverDrive servers and I've successfully loaded books and opened them on my Kindle.

Tall Mom, You provided an excellent step-by-step to convert library ebooks from .prc to .azw. I was successful in the conversion. I cannot, however, open the file in my Kindle. I get an error message referring me to customer support. I think someone else commented they'd received the same error, but I don't know if any resolution was found. I have 2 PIDs registered with the library (one for the Kindle and one for my laptop). Is that causing a problem, you think? Thanks! By the way, my library uses overdrive as well..

All I can think of is to check and be sure you have the correct PID for your Kindle and that it was entered correctly. Since that post I've simply started stripping the DRM and deleting the book after the time limit (3 weeks).

All I can think of is to check and be sure you have the correct PID for your Kindle and that it was entered correctly. Since that post I've simply started stripping the DRM and deleting the book after the time limit (3 weeks).

So I guess it's possible for Igor's script to generate a .azw file with a wrong PID - I'm still trying to figure this process out!

So I guess it's possible for Igor's script to generate a .azw file with a wrong PID - I'm still trying to figure this process out!

Are you sure of your PID? If you have multiple PIDs registered with a site, are you sure your book was downloaded with the Kindle PID?

Check out the Visual Kindle Guide (http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Visual_Kindle_Guide) for step by step instructions with pictures on how to find your Kindle PID and use KindleFIX (based on TallMomof2's instructions).

Are you sure of your PID? If you have multiple PIDs registered with a site, are you sure your book was downloaded with the Kindle PID?

Check out the Visual Kindle Guide (http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Visual_Kindle_Guide) for step by step instructions with pictures on how to find your Kindle PID and use KindleFIX (based on TallMomof2's instructions).

Thank you, thank you! Problem resolved. I missed the instruction to input the serial number when running the kindlepid script. Interestingly, without the serial number, the script produced a Kindle-looking pid, albeit the wrong one.

Question: so the books I've downloaded will no longer work once they expire?

Thanks again - I've pored over this for hours. You get much karma from me!!:2thumbsup

Thank you, thank you! Problem resolved. I missed the instruction to input the serial number when running the kindlepid script. Interestingly, without the serial number, the script produced a Kindle-looking pid, albeit the wrong one.

Question: so the books I've downloaded will no longer work once they expire?

Thanks again - I've pored over this for hours. You get much karma from me!!:2thumbsup

Yay! I'm glad it worked for you. Your books will still expire but you can always check them out again. :)

This is slightly out of date. With the K2 coming out soon, now is an excellent time to create a new one.

Can someone provide a link to a downloadable copy of MobiDesktop 6.0? I'm having hosting issues with the server I used to use.

Can someone provide a link to a downloadable copy of MobiDesktop 6.0? I'm having hosting issues with the server I sues to use.

not working........will try again.

what is mobi desktop???

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what is mobi desktop???

http://www.pppcm.com/61l772.jpg

= Mobipocket Desktop Reader

Do you have a Kindle? You only benefit from MobiDesktop if you have the original Kindle becuase v6.0 of MobiDesktop recognizes the original Kindle as a reading device. This made it easier to manage your ebooks.

At this point, I'm recommending that you download calibre (http://calibre.kovidgoyal.net/) instead. It supports both Kindles.

This would have been useful when I just got the kindle.

Thanks for this information!

Thank you for such a complete guide. I'm the kind of person who wants to know how everything works right out of the box.
:thanks:

= Mobipocket Desktop Reader

Do you have a Kindle? You only benefit from MobiDesktop if you have the original Kindle becuase v6.0 of MobiDesktop recognizes the original Kindle as a reading device. This made it easier to manage your ebooks.

At this point, I'm recommending that you download calibre (http://calibre.kovidgoyal.net/) instead. It supports both Kindles.


If you are running Vista, v6.0 doesn't recognize the Kindle1.

thanks man!

= Mobipocket Desktop Reader

Do you have a Kindle? You only benefit from MobiDesktop if you have the original Kindle becuase v6.0 of MobiDesktop recognizes the original Kindle as a reading device. This made it easier to manage your ebooks.

At this point, I'm recommending that you download calibre (http://calibre.kovidgoyal.net/) instead. It supports both Kindles.

MobiDesktop 6.0 recognizes both Kindle 1 *and* Kindle 2. And once recognized if you upgrade to the current version both Kindles are still recognized and listed under devices with all the information.

MobiDesktop 6.0 recognizes both Kindle 1 *and* Kindle 2. And once recognized if you upgrade to the current version both Kindles are still recognized and listed under devices with all the information.

But does v6.0 give you the PID of the K2? If not, then the K2 isn't recognized as a reading device (this has a specific meaning) but as a USB drive.

And when the K2 came out I tried upgrading from v6.0 to v6.2. After the upgrade the original Kindle was no longer recognized as a reading device but as a USB drive.

Yes, 6.0 gives a PID for the Kindle 2 and I can use "send to device" (or whatever the command is) correctly. I didn't try any material encoded for the K2 however, just non-DRM'd files.

yes, great guide.... but i think it needs updating for k2

yes, great guide.... but i think it needs updating for k2

I was thinking that it would be better to write a new one for the K2. I don't have one, so I can't.

I recently got my 1st reader, Kindle 2. I purchased a book for fictionwise, downloaded it in Kindle format, copied it into documents on my Kindle, and it did not transfer to my device. I'm sure this is a newby problem, but how do I get my book on my device?

Never mind. I got it. I feel very stupid, too!

Never mind. I got it. I feel very stupid, too!

LOL, dont' feel stupid, its just a matter of playing with a new joystick for a bit before getting the hang of it.

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Thank you for such a complete guide. I'm the kind of person who wants to know how everything works right out of the box.
:thanks:

DITTO! LOL!