View Full Version : Calibre does not recognize Kindle Fire HD on Mac Leopard


new
10-22-2012, 11:41 PM
Calibre recognizes my Kindle DX, and Kindle Keyboard, but it does not recognize my Kindle Fire HD. Help please. I really want to be able to plus in USB because my library is large. I was emailing to Kindle but I would prefer not doing that.

I am considering a Kindle Paperwhite. Does Calibre and Mac Leopard recognize the Paperwhite? If Calibre doesn't recognize that either I will not get it.

Again I have the latest Calibre and it is on Apple Mac Leopard computer.

Thank you.

kovidgoyal
10-22-2012, 11:58 PM
http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq.html#how-do-i-use-app-with-my-android-phone-tablet-or-kindle-fire-hd

new
10-23-2012, 12:01 AM
http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq.html#how-do-i-use-app-with-my-android-phone-tablet
Hi Kovidgoyal,
I read that but do not understand this as it doesn't mention Kindle Fire HD.

What are you saying? Thanks.

new
10-23-2012, 12:03 AM
http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq.html#how-do-i-use-app-with-my-android-phone-tablet
Note
from your website:

Amazon have removed the ability to manipulate collections completely in their newer models, like the Kindle Touch and Kindle Fire, making even the above plugin useless. If you really want the ability to manage collections on your Kindle via a USB connection, we encourage you to complain to Amazon about it, or get a reader where this is supported, like the SONY Readers.


This doesn't say it doesn't recognize Kindle Fire. I am confused.

kovidgoyal
10-23-2012, 12:25 AM
The Kindle Fire HD is an Android device.

new
10-23-2012, 01:23 AM
The Kindle Fire HD is an Android device.

Wow I really need someone to tell me if Kindle Fire HD will ever be able to (if it isn't now) access the Calibre Library via USB and not the over complicated methods of instructions linked above?

I just don't get it, I have read the link again and again. :blink:

Thanks!

itimpi
10-23-2012, 06:53 AM
Wow I really need someone to tell me if Kindle Fire HD will ever be able to (if it isn't now) access the Calibre Library via USB and not the over complicated methods of instructions linked above?

I just don't get it, I have read the link again and again. :blink:

Thanks!
Not on a Mac. The method that is used to connect to Android tablets via USB (the MTP driver) only works on Windows Vista/7/8 and Linux, but not on MacOS.

I would think that your best option would be to consider using the Calibre Companion application and a wifi connection? However you may want to wait for Chaley to make a statement about whether that should work for the combination of the Kindle Fire HD and Mac OS before you try that route.

new
10-23-2012, 05:12 PM
Not on a Mac. The method that is used to connect to Android tablets via USB (the MTP driver) only works on Windows Vista/7/8 and Linux, but not on MacOS.

I would think that your best option would be to consider using the Calibre Companion application and a wifi connection? However you may want to wait for Chaley to make a statement about whether that should work for the combination of the Kindle Fire HD and Mac OS before you try that route.
Thanks for responding. The Calibre Companion says not for Kindle Fire HD on Amazon.

Will the paperwhite have the issue of Calibre not responding?

Who is Chaley? Why has no other posts mentioned this problem? I can't be the only one with a Mac and a Kindle Fire and Calibre.

I have a paperwhite on order, if this is going to be an issue I will cancel as I don't want to be locked down like that.:thanks:

NiLuJe
10-23-2012, 05:47 PM
@new: No issues with the PW (it's a standard mass storage device, it's not using MTP).

ellett
10-23-2012, 07:29 PM
Chaley is one of the authors of Calibre Companion and a major contributor to calibre.

The Amazon readers, Fire, Paperwhite etc. are very popular but they're all locked to the Amazon ecosystem. A more open alternative to the Paperwhite would be the Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight or the Kobo Glo. I can vouch for the Simple Touch as connecting perfectly as a USB device. All of the e-ink readers, including the Paperwhite, still use USB connections, so read the other threads about Paperwhite issues and then decide if the device is for you.

A more open alternative to the Fire would be any full Android tablet. I have the Nexus 7 and while it too is an mtp device, it runs Calibre Companion, which is both fast and much more functional than a simple USB connection.

If you are invested in Amazon books, those are DRM locked to Amazon and you can't read them on other e-ink readers, such as the Simple Touch or Kobo Glo. You can install Kindle software on any full Android tablet and read Amazon books using that software, while there are several other reading products, both free and paid, that you can also install and use to read unlocked books and books DRMed from other stores.

new
10-23-2012, 07:30 PM
@new: No issues with the PW (it's a standard mass storage device, it's not using MTP).
Thank you! I almost cancelled my order. I really want a PW even though I know about the light at the bottom.

You have one right? Are the fonts big enough? If you convert a book to a bigger font does it go to your paperwhite? It won't on my KFHD. Do you like your PW?

Thanks.

DoctorOhh
10-24-2012, 04:28 AM
I can't be the only one with a Mac and a Kindle Fire and Calibre.

This is a problem with OSX or Windows XP and any Android device that uses MTP to connect via the USB port. However for every other android device in this category the android app calibre companion fills the gap and allows folks to connect their device wireless straight to calibre as any other device would connect via USB. Unfortunately Amazon has seen fit not to allow this app for the Kindle Fire at this time.

new
10-24-2012, 05:16 PM
This is a problem with OSX or Windows XP and any Android device that uses MTP to connect via the USB port. However for every other android device in this category the android app calibre companion fills the gap and allows folks to connect their device wireless straight to calibre as any other device would connect via USB. Unfortunately Amazon has seen fit not to allow this app for the Kindle Fire at this time.
So any other "Windows" product above XP would work? Why not Mac Leopard?

Rather short sided of the developer if you ask me.

I wasn't impressed by his rather cryptic postings.

I am suppose to figure out what "collections" mean? Isn't that above the regular library?

itimpi
10-24-2012, 06:32 PM
So any other "Windows" product above XP would work? Why not Mac Leopard?

Rather short sided of the developer if you ask me.
The reason it does not work on MacOS is that Apple do not include the required underlying functionality in MacOS. You are welcome to ask them why they do not do so:)

DoctorOhh
10-24-2012, 07:51 PM
So any other "Windows" product above XP would work? Why not Mac Leopard?

Rather short sided of the developer if you ask me.

This is a limitation of the operating system (OS) not a limitation of this program. If you want MTP support ask Apple to include it or go with a OS like Linux or newer versions of Windows.

I wasn't impressed by his rather cryptic postings.

I don't understand what is cryptic about the area of the FAQ he linked to.

The link he sent you to is titled "How do I use calibre with my Android phone/tablet?" which explains how to use your android device with calibre and clearly states the limitations of newer android devices.

Note: With newer Android devices, the USB connection is only supported on Windows Vista and newer and Linux. If you are on Windows XP or OS X, you should use one of the wireless connection methods.The FAQ further explains the wireless connection methods you can use.

I am suppose to figure out what "collections" mean? Isn't that above the regular library?

You have to venture quite a ways down the page, and away from the area he sent you to, before a FAQ item about collections pops up (this is not pertinent to your question.) I guess the problem you and other new folks to the Kindle Fire run into is not knowing that you have purchased an android tablet.

Good Reading.

new
10-24-2012, 11:37 PM
You have to venture quite a ways down the page, and away from the area he sent you to, before a FAQ item about collections pops up (this is not pertinent to your question.) I guess the problem you and other new folks to the Kindle Fire run into is not knowing that you have purchased an android tablet.

Good Reading. This is pertinent to my question. The page from the developers website states:

"Amazon have removed the ability to manipulate collections completely in their newer models, like the Kindle Touch and Kindle Fire, making even the above plugin useless. If you really want the ability to manage collections on your Kindle via a USB connection, we encourage you to complain to Amazon about it, or get a reader where this is supported, like the SONY Readers."

Which confuses me even more because it makes me interpret this statement that I can't use my Kindle via a USB to access my Calibre library on any new Kindle. To me collections is a feature of the Kindle that I hardly use, as I call my Calibre my Library. Which is which? Perhaps Calibre has a "Collections" feature, but I don't use it.

This is cryptic to me because Kindle Fire HD was not spelled out as an android on his website, not everyone knows that it is. Also the above mentioned paragraph is very confusing to me. Since Calibre doesn't see my KFHD when USB plugged in, this means to me that Kindle Touch or any new Kindle will be the same, not detected when plugged into USB to Calibre. Yikes!

See why I am confused?:smack:

Since I have ordered a Kindle PW and have a Kindle Fire HD, this is an issue for me.

Too much information overload for me.

:blink:

DoctorOhh
10-25-2012, 12:38 AM
This is pertinent to my question. The page from the developers website states:

"Amazon have removed the ability to manipulate collections completely in their newer models, like the Kindle Touch and Kindle Fire, making even the above plugin useless. If you really want the ability to manage collections on your Kindle via a USB connection, we encourage you to complain to Amazon about it, or get a reader where this is supported, like the SONY Readers."

Your question was:

Calibre recognizes my Kindle DX, and Kindle Keyboard, but it does not recognize my Kindle Fire HD. Help please.

Kovid sent you to the specific FAQ that covers this question. What you are referring to above is outside of what you asked and outside of the FAQ link you were pointed to. You may find it interesting and want to know more but it is not pertinent your initial question of calibre does not recognize my device.

Which confuses me even more because it makes me interpret this statement that I can't use my Kindle via a USB to access my Calibre library on any new Kindle.

As it exists now, with a OSX machine you will not be able to connect to your Kindle Fire HD via a USB cable. This is written out in the section of the FAQ you were directed to.

This is cryptic to me because Kindle Fire HD was not spelled out as an android on his website, not everyone knows that it is.

For whatever reason Amazon does not advertise that their tablet is in fact an android tablet. I agree it might help if it was added to the FAQ question for clarification.

Also the above mentioned paragraph is very confusing to me. Since Calibre doesn't see my KFHD when USB plugged in, this means to me that Kindle Touch or any new Kindle will be the same, not detected when plugged into USB to Calibre. Yikes!

Assuming because one device does x then all the rest must also do x is something that I can't help you with.

See why I am confused?:smack:

I see why you are confused. But you did ask a question then spin off into a totally unrelated area, I can see how you got there, but it is a new area non the less. Using anything for the first time can be confusing, more so if you by a device that is as closed off as the Kindle Fire HD.

I'm not a Kindle Fire HD owner, but the way I see it you have two ways to get books to your device. One is to use the calibre content server, described in the previously linked FAQ. Two is to use calibre's email feature to email the books to your device.

Good luck and if you have further questions about the Paperwhite or collections please address these in different threads.

new
10-25-2012, 02:09 PM
Your question was:



Kovid sent you to the specific FAQ that covers this question. What you are referring to above is outside of what you asked and outside of the FAQ link you were pointed to. You may find it interesting and want to know more but it is not pertinent your initial question of calibre does not recognize my device.



As it exists now, with a OSX machine you will not be able to connect to your Kindle Fire HD via a USB cable. This is written out in the section of the FAQ you were directed to.



For whatever reason Amazon does not advertise that their tablet is in fact an android tablet. I agree it might help if it was added to the FAQ question for clarification.



Assuming because one device does x then all the rest must also do x is something that I can't help you with.



I see why you are confused. But you did ask a question then spin off into a totally unrelated area, I can see how you got there, but it is a new area non the less. Using anything for the first time can be confusing, more so if you by a device that is as closed off as the Kindle Fire HD.

I'm not a Kindle Fire HD owner, but the way I see it you have two ways to get books to your device. One is to use the calibre content server, described in the previously linked FAQ. Two is to use calibre's email feature to email the books to your device.

Good luck and if you have further questions about the Paperwhite or collections please address these in different threads.

You know I didn't spin off as you say, I read what the developer linked to. It went on and on..... I asked a question from what I read there, same link.

There is no need to be snippy. Don't answer my posts anymore.

:thanks:

theducks
10-25-2012, 08:42 PM
You know I didn't spin off as you say, I read what the developer linked to. It went on and on..... I asked a question from what I read there, same link.

There is no need to be snippy. Don't answer my posts anymore.

:thanks:

Please Leave, We don't need your rude behavior.

DoctorOhh
10-26-2012, 02:00 AM
You know I didn't spin off as you say, I read what the developer linked to. It went on and on..... I asked a question from what I read there, same link.

I can understand your confusion. You were linked to one section of the FAQ and kept reading through 5 other sections until you got to the section that confused you. FYI the section linked to ends where the next section begins. In this case the next section is titled "Can I access my calibre books using the web browser in my Kindle or other reading device?"

For what it is worth the FAQ section (http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq.html#how-do-i-use-app-with-my-android-phone-tablet-or-kindle-fire-hd) has been changed to specifically name the Kindle Fire HD in the title of that section.

There is no need to be snippy. Don't answer my posts anymore.

I'll answer any posts I desire. However Mobileread does make it simple for you to ignore anyone. Simply click on the link of my username next to this post and select Add DoctorOhh to Your Ignore List. This will allow you never to see a post of mine again.

:thanks:

You're Welcome.

Meemo
10-29-2012, 04:37 PM
Actually, when I click on that link it doesn't go to the Android section - it just goes to the top of the general FAQ page. I have to scroll down to the Android section - not sure why since the link looks like it should go there.

At any rate, I'm on a Mac too - and happily am able to successfully connect wirelessly to my Calibre Library (which is on a Mac laptop) from my Fire HD. It's great for downloading ePubs to Aldiko and .mobi files for the Kindle app. It's not a great solution for importing lots of books at once, and unfortunately it looks like that's what the OP may want to do, but I don't import lots of books to my Fire anyway - just the book I'm reading and the next couple I might want to read. The ePub/Aldiko solution is a bit simpler than .mobi files, and I prefer Aldiko as a reading app, so it works for me. But of course that's a YMMV situation.

To "New" (if you're still here) - I understand some of your confusion if the link worked for you the way it worked for me. When they refer to the Collections feature & Calibre, though, they're talking about a plug-in for Calibre that worked with older Kindles to create Collections that would work on the Kindle - making it easier to create and manipulate Collections because you could do it on the computer rather than on the Kindle. Starting with the Touch, I believe, that plug-in doesn't work any more. It isn't related to the business of Androids & Macs connecting or not - it's an Amazon/Calibre thing. So if you haven't been using that plug-in, it isn't something you need to worry about.

PeterT
10-29-2012, 05:10 PM
I think the reason the link does not work is that the page has been edited since the original link was posted and the links have changed.

DoctorOhh
10-29-2012, 11:45 PM
Actually, when I click on that link it doesn't go to the Android section - it just goes to the top of the general FAQ page. I have to scroll down to the Android section - not sure why since the link looks like it should go there.

That is because you are late to the discussion and the link (http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq.html#how-do-i-use-app-with-my-android-phone-tablet-or-kindle-fire-hd) has been changed to reduce confusion by adding "or Kindle Fire HD?" to the section title so folks that have a Kindle Fire HD but don't know it is an Android tablet will be less confused.

Thanks for providing your experience to this poster, I'm sure your shared experience will be of help.

Good Reading.

ludovicus
01-16-2013, 09:59 PM
I was having the same problem, and came across this thread. I know it's a couple of months old, but maybe this can help someone.

My Mac wouldn't mount my Kindle Fire HD, so I searched and found this Amazon support page:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_201008260_usb?nodeId=201008260#usb

This will lead you to download an Android app at:

http://www.android.com/filetransfer/

The file transfer utility will let you move files to and from the KF. It still won't let Calibre see the device, but at least I can drag/drop books to it.

Tried to install the Calibre Companion app, but Amazon says it's not compatible with the KFHD... Have yet to try the Calibre server.

Hope this helps!