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Kittybriton
08-21-2012, 05:45 PM
This is something I really need to figure out: can an ePub support a mix of text and musical notation?

The big musical notation programs currently available (Sibelius, Finale and Noteflight) offer export in Music XML. Does anyone know of a way to integrate Music XML with the markup language used in ePub to produce musical notation, i.e. for songbooks? or academic texts which combine text with musical examples?

Aerys
08-22-2012, 01:15 AM
Sorry but it's impossible to incorporate MUSIC XML since it's not part of the epub specifications.

I think you can use the current workaround for "MATH ML" which is to capture the "notation" as images.

Toxaris
08-22-2012, 04:19 AM
If you can save it as SVG, it should be possible.

Jellby
08-22-2012, 04:36 AM
It won't "reflow" though.

mrmikel
08-22-2012, 09:01 AM
I don't know I'd want music to reflow if there were much of it. PDF might be the best vehicle for what Kitty wants to do. EPUB is great, but it is not suited to everything.

Kittybriton
08-23-2012, 08:01 AM
Perhaps somebody else will find my current workaround useful: where music has to be incorporated, present it in both abc notation (which is text-only) and QR code (to save copy-and-pasting). There are several online converters which will take the abc notation and hand back a beautiful page of dots.

mrmikel
08-24-2012, 08:00 AM
Fine for a tablet or phone, but not so useful for an ordinary e-ink reader.

Depends on how important it is to have a wide audience, I guess.

ApK
08-24-2012, 10:00 AM
Perhaps somebody else will find my current workaround useful: where music has to be incorporated, present it in both abc notation (which is text-only) and QR code (to save copy-and-pasting). There are several online converters which will take the abc notation and hand back a beautiful page of dots.

I don't follow...you present music in an epub that someone using a reader would need to copy to some online website to make use of? If you you're going to require going online to make use of the music from an ebook, what's the point of having it in the ebook? Just post the music online in the first place.

And how does a QR code help with anything? Are they to take a picture of their ereader page with another device?

Kittybriton
08-24-2012, 10:01 PM
At the moment, I'm still pretty much feeling my way.

The thinking is that the QR code encapsulates an entire tune, together with any relevant background information like source, or collection notes. The human reader can define their own output format should they wish to obtain a paper copy. Not having any other devices to play with, I can only infer that since my Chi-Pad can grab a screen shot, there must be others similarly capable.

One of the advantages of the electronic book over paper is the ability to incorporate hyperlinks. The book is no longer limited to references which might require a search through several libraries; the internet makes the contents of huge numbers of libraries available. The problem with the internet (until someone fixes it) is link rot (vide my lament below concerning the fate of my blog).

Depending on how you look at it, the music isn't an essential part of the book I'm working on but it does add a dimension for musicians. The music I'm working with right now has been on my blog for the last three years, but the hosting company is changing direction on December 1st, eliminating blogs and related social media, and I'm loath to let the effort go to waste.

Or as one shining wit expressed it: "What frenzy hath of late possess'd the brain? Though few can write, yet fewer can refrain!"

JSWolf
08-24-2012, 11:34 PM
Not all readers have wifi. So if your eBook needs a reading app to be online, you may be sadly mistaken.

Kittybriton
08-25-2012, 08:24 AM
Good point. It is too easy to forget, in my enthusiasm, that not everyone can ride the wave at the bleeding edge of new technology.

mrmikel
08-25-2012, 10:03 AM
I trade WI-fi access for being able to use a book for several weeks on and off, without battery charging, because I only read old books anyway.

There are 4 computers in the house, so I don't need to be connected when I am reading.

JSWolf
08-25-2012, 11:13 PM
Good point. It is too easy to forget, in my enthusiasm, that not everyone can ride the wave at the bleeding edge of new technology.

You are not doing well to ingratiate yourself.