View Full Version : Hi! Is there any thread dealing ONLY with touchscreen capabilities of readers?


Clemenseken
01-08-2008, 03:41 PM
Hi!
Is there any thread dealing ONLY/MAINLY with touchscreen capabilities of eReaders eBook-reading-devices?

- otherwise I'd like to commence a thread that bundles all and any information concerning this capability...

Everybody is WELCOME to either say NO-THERE'S NO NEED FOR THIS or CONTRIBUTE something worthwhile!

(I am eagerly awaiting this quality without having to pay a fortune for it...)

DaleDe
01-08-2008, 04:09 PM
Hi!
Is there any thread dealing ONLY/MAINLY with touchscreen capabilities of eReaders?

- otherwise I'd like to commence a thread that bundles all and any information concerning this capability...

Everybody is WELCOME to either say NO-THERE'S NO NEED FOR THIS or CONTRIBUTE something worthwhile!

(I am eagerly awaiting this quality without having to pay a fortune for it...)

I presume you are talking about eBook Readers and not the Palm product. Here is the status of currently available touch screen.

1. PDA's have touch screens and readers that run on them will work.
2. Tablets have touch screens and readers that run on them will work.
3. The eBookwise 1150 has a touch screen.
4. The iLiad has a touch screen
5. Hanlin has two models with auxiliary touch screens but they may no longer be available for individual purchase as people can't seem to get either one.

Dale

Clemenseken
01-09-2008, 05:19 AM
I presume you are talking about eBook Readers and not the Palm product.
...
Dale

Hi Dale,

yes, you're right of course: I meant eReaders eBook-reading-devices with eink-technology...
but thankyou nevertheless for this useful overview!

What I actually look for are more or less Iliad qualities in a 800x600 eReader eBook-reading-device.

I have read about Hanlin models (e.g.) due end last year that were supposed to have them - any news about these?

hedro
01-09-2008, 05:42 AM
The Hanlin V9 model is deylayed until the larger screen size is available you can see what Jinke told me in post 12 of this thread:

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16318

HarryT
01-09-2008, 08:42 AM
The iLiad is your only choice if you want an eInk reader with a touch screen.

DaleDe
01-09-2008, 11:19 AM
Hi Dale,

yes, you're right of course: I meant eReaders with eink-technology...
but thankyou nevertheless for this useful overview!

What I actually look for are more or less Iliad qualities in a 800x600 eReader.

I have read about Hanlin models (e.g.) due end last year that were supposed to have them - any news about these?

One individual was able to get a price on a V2 directly from Jinke. This is good news as it is an interesting alternative to the other 800x600 eBook Readers in the market place. The V9's are in limbo due to availability of the larger screen but you didn't want a larger screen anyway so a V2 might be perfect for you. The V8 has an older OS and not nearly as desirable.

Dale

wallcraft
01-13-2008, 01:01 PM
It is an open question whether touch screens are desirable on an e-book reader (we know they are not necessary, since most E-Ink devices don't have one).

One advantage of touch screens is that they provide greater compatibility with existing software, e.g. from Linux (X11) or PDAs. One obvious example is web browsers. The Kindle has a web browser, but it isn't full functioned. It has a scroll bar and a keyboard, which can almost make up for the lack of a touch screen with the right software. Another example is FBReader - which currently requires a pointing device (mouse or touch screen). However, I think it likely that the upcoming Java (e.g. Android) version, FBReaderJ, will remove this requirement.

Much of this is moot, though, because most e-book devices are not open to 3rd party software anyway. So the real question is what particular capability do you require and has the vendor provided it? The fact that a touch screen would allow this capability in theory does not necessarily help in practice.

Clemenseken
01-14-2008, 05:08 AM
Apart from (hopefully) easier navigation/compatibility what it boils down to for me is:

Taking notes (even simple drawings?) like
A) text corrections/annotations
B) writing "independant" text (but a dummy "book" might suffice)

I want to use DRM-free formats, so the kindle won't do for me.
I might use a keyboard though, you're right; but the looks of a device are important for me, too, and I didn't see a "cute" keyboard solution so far...

HarryT
01-14-2008, 07:50 AM
From your requirements, it sounds as though a Tablet PC may well be the best solution.

JSWolf
01-14-2008, 09:46 AM
Hi Dale,

yes, you're right of course: I meant eReaders with eink-technology...
but thankyou nevertheless for this useful overview!

What I actually look for are more or less Iliad qualities in a 800x600 eReader.

I have read about Hanlin models (e.g.) due end last year that were supposed to have them - any news about these?
There are NO eink based eReaders.

Clemenseken
01-15-2008, 05:29 AM
There are NO eink based eReaders.

Thanks for this cryptic remark - now please eyplain:

May I humbly ask where I formulated / thought wrongly? :blink:

montsnmags
01-15-2008, 07:41 AM
Thanks for this cryptic remark - now please eyplain:

May I humbly ask where I formulated / thought wrongly? :blink:

"eReader" is a proprietary format...or a device, or software, or something else I could only care less about by removing parts of my brain with an icecream scoop (Mmmm, icecream).....Anyhoo, the upshot is that what you call an "eReader" is what is actually "officially" (well, okay, there's no "Office of Ebook Terminology", but you get my drift) called an "ebook reader device".

Of course, "eReader" is the most logical name for such a device, in my not-at-all humble opinion and as evinced by the commonality of its use by those newer to the ebook world, but, well, someone (Palm?) bogarted that name for their device/software/format/whatever and so we're forced to use some other clumsy designation.

Ahh, here's the reference to eReader in the Mobileread Wiki:

http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Ereader

Note, I skimmed it - I still don't really know what it is (and still don't care) other than that Palm (Yay, I was...maybe...right) appears to have been the dirty rotten bogarter.

Hmm, maybe folk with the "eReader bugbear" who wish to "help" people by correcting their misuse could just keep the above link handy and paste it into their "corrections". Perhaps this would actually help, would ensure that your bugbear is allayed somewhat, and would avoid the ongoing confusion that still requires time and explication by others with more "patience".

Cheers,
Marc (who has as many bugbears as he has voices...some of them dark, angry, demon voices "KILLCRUSHDESTROY!"... in his head)

Clemenseken
01-16-2008, 04:56 AM
Oh,

so I won't ever be allowed to use the word term "wordŽ" in this forum because Microsoft ages ago rigged up a software called "Word"...

... what a pity!

:rolleyes:

montsnmags
01-16-2008, 08:29 AM
Oh,

so I won't ever be allowed to use the word term "wordŽ" in this forum because Microsoft ages ago rigged up a software called "Word"...

... what a pity!

:rolleyes:

Actually, the issue isn't some kind of trademark consideration, but rather that using the word "eReader" may in some circumstances lead to confusion as to what is being discussed, as it has elsewhere within the forum.

So, you can use the word "word" and folks are unlikely to confuse you for a Bill Gates Fanboy. However, if you say "I've got a problem with my eReader", well folks might just require some clarification. ;)

Cheers,
Marc (I'm a pedestal fanboy - watch me twiiiiirrrllllll.....:knuddel: )

JSWolf
01-16-2008, 09:31 AM
The term eReader is used for the software and format of eBooks formatted for use on PALM type devices using the eReader software. Incorrect usage of this term has already led one person to purchase eBooks in eReader format when he wanted a different format. This is why we try to curb the incorrect usage of eReader. So please do us a favor and edit your posts to fix the incorrect usage of eReader.

Clemenseken
01-16-2008, 12:23 PM
... Incorrect usage of this term has already led one person to purchase eBooks in eReader format when he wanted a different format. ...
So please do us a favor and edit your posts to fix the incorrect usage of eReader.

Yes!
I did you a favour and extinguished the BAD seven-letter-wordŽ ...

(but I still find it a pity that I won't be able to call my eReader an "eReader": somehow feels wrong to me...)

p.s.: please no more replies on my choice of words - I'll try my best to avoid the bad word.


EDIT: Oh - No ! Nobody told me I use the BAD word in my personal description (left side under "Clemenseken"). Arrrrrrghhhhh! I'll change that in half a second - I promise!!!

ElaHuguet
01-20-2008, 05:42 AM
LOL, if I were you, I'd just change "eReader" to "e-reader" and be done! :D

... in fact, since there are no "readers" that aren't "e" - apart from humans (and some trained dolphins or monkeys or...) - you could just say "readers", since I doubt that anyone would think you were looking for humans with touchscreen capabilities (in this present time, God knows what the future will bring! :teleport: :sunny: :alien: ).

Clemenseken
01-20-2008, 03:51 PM
LOL, if I were you, I'd just change "eReader" to "e-reader" and be done! :D
...
since I doubt that anyone would think you were looking for humans with touchscreen capabilities

you are right.

;) ...actually I was LOQ* while I wrote my reply to someone's protest against my using "eReader"...


*laughing out quietly

mrdini
03-14-2008, 01:17 PM
One individual was able to get a price on a V2 directly from Jinke. This is good news as it is an interesting alternative to the other 800x600 eBook Readers in the market place. The V9's are in limbo due to availability of the larger screen but you didn't want a larger screen anyway so a V2 might be perfect for you. The V8 has an older OS and not nearly as desirable.

Dale

Oh wait, was this me? Oh heh - sorry for the late arrival in this thread then!

Yes - I got mine, and I have to say that it's bloody great, and at the same time, bloody frustrating.

In a nutshell - the hardware works really well, and I can zoom in and navigate around a "sheet of paper" using the touchscreen. In addition, I can annotate documents. I think it's great!

However, at the same time, Jinke's software is so annoying, and so brain-dead. It's exactly what using a Windows computer would be like after having only used Mac OS X :P The UI is fairly arcane, and does not always do what you'd expect it to do. Lots and lots of quirks in it.

But heck, given that the V2 sells for almost half the price of the only other touchscreen reader on the market, the Iliad, I'm not going to complain!

Any questions about the V2, feel free to ask in here or in the Hanlin forum

Robertb
11-05-2008, 08:30 PM
Oh wait, was this me? Oh heh - sorry for the late arrival in this thread then!

Yes - I got mine, and I have to say that it's bloody great, and at the same time, bloody frustrating.

In a nutshell - the hardware works really well, and I can zoom in and navigate around a "sheet of paper" using the touchscreen. In addition, I can annotate documents. I think it's great!

However, at the same time, Jinke's software is so annoying, and so brain-dead. It's exactly what using a Windows computer would be like after having only used Mac OS X :P The UI is fairly arcane, and does not always do what you'd expect it to do. Lots and lots of quirks in it.

But heck, given that the V2 sells for almost half the price of the only other touchscreen reader on the market, the Iliad, I'm not going to complain!

Any questions about the V2, feel free to ask in here or in the Hanlin forum

Just a note... but in February Astak will be selling the new "EZ Reader Pro". This is the American name for the Hanlin V3 and is backed by Astak... a USA firm. The new Touchscreen will have Wi-Fi and Note-Taking using a "soft keyboard". It will debut at the Astak booth at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas (January 8-11). The V3 software is excellent and was 8 years in development. G3 will be an option.

Also, Netronix is coming out with a new Touchscreen as well and will be debuted also as above. That one will have the new Epson Controller, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and Note-Taking. It will be released in the USA under the Mentor line.

Robert B