View Full Version : I know the Kindle is new, but when do you think they will release a 2nd generation?


raztaztwo
12-16-2007, 01:36 PM
I realize the Kindle has just been released... but when do you think they may do a re-vamp and release an updated and more streamlined Kindle? We are looking at purchasing two and I just wanted an idea of how long before you think I may have to upgrade... Also, does anyone know the wait time of receiving a kindle? Since they are out of stock? Thanks so much -

rflashman
12-16-2007, 03:09 PM
My guess is fall of '08 to match up with Christmas 2008.

raztaztwo
12-16-2007, 03:13 PM
Makes sense! Thanks! We are still sitting on the fence... to buy now or not to buy :) Maybe we will wait a bit and see!!!! Thanks again

Ervserver
12-16-2007, 03:28 PM
November 2008, also only have a few in stock so very few people get them by Christmas

Alisa
12-17-2007, 01:46 AM
I don't think they created an artificial scarcity as a business ploy. I really think they sold more than they thought they would (not that it means they sold a bajillion units). Or possibly the small manufacturing capacity of PVI was the problem. I don't see it really helping them to not have units on hand for the biggest shopping month of the year.

azog
12-17-2007, 08:13 AM
I recall reading about color e-ink displays, but I don't remember where I read that. I'm sure that someone here can post a link. I'd think that there won't be a V2 until the color displays are available. Beyond that, there's not much they can do now to improve the existing unit. Maybe if they re-cased it, addressing the buttons and stuff. I've no idea what it takes to manufacture stuff (from design to product), but I'd suspect it's not cheap. Altho I wouldn't be surprised if they're in design right now, but they'd probably want their ROI first before going beyond the design phase for the next version.

Alisa
12-17-2007, 12:44 PM
I agree that a better screen would be the biggest reason to do a v2. Either color or larger/faster/better resolution for the same price. If I could get an iLiad-sized screen for a Kindle-sized price, I'd be pretty darned happy. When they can finally do inexpensive, large color screens I bet we'll see a lot more magazine content.

JSWolf
12-17-2007, 12:59 PM
Don't need color. Would raise the price too high. However, a 10" screen with higher resolution would be very nice for a Sony Reader PRS-600.

sfernald
12-17-2007, 01:14 PM
It's hard to predict because as far as I know, Amazon has never gotten into the consumer electronics biz before. Maybe they are thinking that because the kindle is so service-oriented that they won't need to update it as frequently as a Sony or Apple gadget.

I would not be surprised if it was two years or more between new versions of the kindle. And when it happens it most certainly will be because of the availability of improved screen technology.

The kindle, despite a few defects and annoyances, doesn't really need a new iteration. It is perfectly serviceable as is.

I really hope they do continue to improve the software though. Constant firmware releases like the PS3 gets would be great. Even bi-yearly updates like the Xbox360 would be appreciated as long as they are substantial.

Penforhire
12-17-2007, 04:48 PM
Serviceable? Yes. But it will not capture as much market share as it could with just a few more tweaks, mostly ergonomic to me. Yep, that will not a driving force until sales slow down.

Ervserver
12-17-2007, 05:18 PM
Reading thru many of the feedback ratings on Amazon it seems there are quite a few units dead on arrival or dying shortly after arriving. I wonder if this has anything to do with the current shortages. Maybe they are trying to rework some things at the factory

Zoot
12-17-2007, 06:29 PM
Well, I wouldn't expect to see a new Kindle model until there's an advance in screen technology that's significant. So wait for the next big announcement from e-ink or whomever and then you can start asking when a Kindle with the new screen will be available.

Personally I think a color display would be a mistake. If you tell people it has a color screen then they'll expect it to look as good as their 16 million color LCD monitors and will want to be able to web-surf on it as though it were a PC. A fast way to kill off book readers would be to try to turn them into laptop/pda competitors with lots of features unrelated to their primary job of presenting text.

I can see cases where having a couple of highlight colors could improve some book presentations, but for the most part you can't display enough material on the 6" screen to make it worthwhile. I doubt I would feel a desire to upgrade if color were the main improvement, at least as long as what I'm reading are primarily text-only books to begin with. The Manga crowd may feel differently.

A larger screen could be a viable option, but that probably comes at the cost of making the whole device larger, and the majority might prefer the smaller and more portable size. Once you make the screen big enough to display something like a newspaper page in full color, then I'm not sure what the device is any more. It's certainly not a "book", and I'm not certain that there's a market there.

I actually bought a book yesterday for the Kindle that I own in hardback because the paper book is so large and heavy as to be inconvenient to read.

http://www.amazon.com/Food-Cooking-Science-Lore-Kitchen/dp/B000PAAH1W

Z.

Just4Fun
12-17-2007, 09:55 PM
Maybe they will consider manufacturing a Kindle with a larger screen for students and those professionals who need to view textbooks and manuals that include graphs and pictures. A "Kindle Professional" would be a nice addition to go with the current Kindle.