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Loopy65
12-12-2007, 03:07 PM
Well .. my Cybook arrived this afternoon (UK) and I must say I'm very impressed indeed .. for me, this is definitely the right machine ..

It is nice and simple to use (yup, good for me! lol) and so light! ..

The cover is excellent! .. my hubby has an iRex and this cover is a gazillion times better! .. it adds to the niceness of the machine rather than detracts and it's so good to have a cover that you dont have to remove to get at buttons etc

It's fast .. much much faster than the iRex (which feels slow as molasses) .. it takes next to no time to power on and the page turning is awesome!

Would prefer page turning on the left (or both but not as ugly as the Kindle!) and with the cover on it's almost an effort to press the right bit altho I suspect as the Cybook settles into its cover more it will become easier ..

The library view is also good altho I'd very much like a 'sort by author' option .. would expect this to come at some point with a software update ..

I am feeling the screen a little on the small side but I've been using an iRex so have been spoiled somewhat .. I will get used to it I know ..

so far then very impressed and very happy ..

the iRex tho is the right e-reader for hubby who does more than just read on his and also views a fair number of work-related pdfs .. so we both get the best :)

Loopy

kkingdon
12-12-2007, 03:50 PM
My Cybook also arrived this morning (California). I took it to work with me and it immediately attracted the attention of everyone who walked by my cubicle. (I had it out and turned on.) They were most impressed by the screen contrast and readability. They assumed it was backlit. I showed the page flipping and they thought it was a little on the slow side, but not too bad.

It took me just a couple of minutes to correlate the blinking led to my button presses. Once I noticed that the light turned on when a press registered and turned off when the press action completed, I was able to reduce the number of weak, non-working page-flip presses.

I received the black leather cover. It has cut-outs for all of the buttons and the LED. The rubber cover over the USB and headphone connectors is difficult to remove when the unit is in the case. like the feel of the case. The exterior is smooth leather over padding. The interior is rougher-grained, but by no means "raw". There is a pen-holder in the spine and 3 pockets on the inside cover. Two pockets appear to be sized for SD cards. The third pocket is twice as wide and half-again as deep. I probably won't use them for anything.

I installed the Liberation fonts. I'll have to experiment until I decide what font family/font-size I prefer.

I tried mobipocket files from mobileread, from feedbooks, and from Fictionwise. None seemed to have proper TOC or other meta-data links that show up in the context menu like the included sample mobipocket files have. In many, the author info seemed to be missing in the library view also. (When I look at these same mobipocket files in the desktop reader, the metadata is missing there as well, so I assume this is a deficiency in the creation of the file rather than in the Cybook's reader software.)

Compared to my previous e-reader, my Palm TX, the display is sooo much better. It's bigger and definitely easier on the eyes.

I tried the page flipping with and without the "negative" flash enabled. Without the flash, I could definitely see ghosting left over from the library view. (A useful improvement would be a "mixed" mode that flashed only when turning to/from a page containing pictures/graphics.) I'll probably stick with the flash mode even though it seems a tad slower.

I also tried some scripture files that came with embedded javascript navigation aids that placed dropdown book/chapter/verse navigation widgets at the top of the page in the desktop and Palm mobipocket readers. These didn't show up at all in the Cybook reader. There were also links in the scripture files at the beginning of each file, book, and chapter for the next level down in the hierarchy. These did show up in the Cybook, but without a proper TOC marker, I had to set a bookmark at the initial table of contents so I could easily skip past the front matter and jump right to the top of the navigation link hierarchy. This is workable, but not as easy as navigation in my Palm's mobipocket reader.

Overall, my first impression is good. I look forward to spending some real quality time reading, especially as the TV script writers are on strike here.

Barcey
12-12-2007, 03:56 PM
It's good to see the next batch of Cybooks coming in and other first impressions. As a compromise on the button placement I'm hoping that they come out with an update that allows for landscape mode in the Mobipocket reader. If you turn it on it's side the button is in the lower left. I've become used to the button placement now though and don't think about it.

Just curious if they shipped with the same BIOS. Is it still?:

Boo Reader Version 1.0 (build 476)
Mobipocket Reader Version: 6.0 (build 60)

kkingdon
12-12-2007, 04:05 PM
Just curious if they shipped with the same BIOS. Is it still?:

Boo Reader Version 1.0 (build 476)
Mobipocket Reader Version: 6.0 (build 60)
Yep, it's exactly the same in my Cybook.

Hadrien
12-12-2007, 04:28 PM
I tried mobipocket files from mobileread, from feedbooks, and from Fictionwise. None seemed to have proper TOC or other meta-data links that show up in the context menu like the included sample mobipocket files have. In many, the author info seemed to be missing in the library view also. (When I look at these same mobipocket files in the desktop reader, the metadata is missing there as well, so I assume this is a deficiency in the creation of the file rather than in the Cybook's reader software.)


I have yet to try our Feedbooks files on the Cybook, but they DO have a proper TOC link that shows up on both the Mobipocket Reader for Windows, and on my smartphone.

Right now it's an inline HTML TOC and a link to both the cover and this TOC in the guide, but I need to study OEB a bit longer and see if I can support a full TOC in the guide like in epub files.

Do you actually have one of those sample files that you could upload ?

The author is present in all of the files on Feedbooks, same thing for the type of the book. We'll add a cover system in the upcoming weeks, to make the display on the Cybook more pleasant.

diabloNL
12-12-2007, 04:34 PM
kkingdon,

Did you order the Deluxe package or did you order the cover separate? I'm just wondering why some people get a black cover while the website says "brown".

kkingdon
12-12-2007, 04:35 PM
I have yet to try our Feedbooks files on the Cybook, but they DO have a proper TOC link that shows up on both the Mobipocket Reader for Windows, and on my smartphone.

Right now it's an inline HTML TOC and a link to both the cover and this TOC in the guide, but I need to study OEB a bit longer and see if I can support a full TOC in the guide like in epub files.

Do you actually have one of those sample files that you could upload ?

The author is present in all of the files on Feedbooks, same thing for the type of the book. We'll add a cover system in the upcoming weeks, to make the display on the Cybook more pleasant.
I see what my mistake was -- I was looking at a PDF from Feedbooks, not a mobipocket file. Indeed, the TOC and Cover entries appear in the "Goto" menu, and the author shows up in the library. Sorry for the bum rap!

Hadrien
12-12-2007, 04:42 PM
I see what my mistake was -- I was looking at a PDF from Feedbooks, not a mobipocket file. Indeed, the TOC and Cover entries appear in the "Goto" menu, and the author shows up in the library. Sorry for the bum rap!

Oh right, one of the files that they embedded on the Cybook... I'll e-mail Bookeen now that they can select between embedding our PDF or our Mobipocket files... Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad that it's working. In the metadata, the current cover type is already "cover", but it doesn't display anything in the library right ? I think that even though it's defined as cover, you need an image to get anything displayed.

kkingdon
12-12-2007, 04:51 PM
In the metadata, the current cover type is already "cover", but it doesn't display anything in the library right ? I think that even though it's defined as cover, you need an image to get anything displayed.
The "Go To, Cover" sequence currently takes me to the same page as the "Go To, Start Reading" sequence: I end up at the front-matter page with the feedbooks logo, the title, author, publication date, categories, and source metadata. "Go To, First Page" takes me to a page that has the large feedbooks logo centered on the page: the page before the "Cover/Start Reading" page.

Hadrien
12-12-2007, 04:56 PM
The "Go To, Cover" sequence currently takes me to the same page as the "Go To, Start Reading" sequence: I end up at the front-matter page with the feedbooks logo, the title, author, publication date, categories, and source metadata. "Go To, First Page" takes me to a page that has the large feedbooks logo centered on the page: the page before the "Cover/Start Reading" page.

I'll have to fix that behavior. "Go to start reading" should point to the beginning of the text, and skip the cover, the author's biography and the other books available for this author. Currently, it must be the default behavior. I'd like to have the whole TOC in the menu too, not simply the inline-HTML TOC link.

rixte
12-12-2007, 06:18 PM
My first impressions:

Oh, it's beautiful. So light and thin and the screen feels huge after reading on pda and phone devices for so long. And really, it's about the same size as an ereader screen on my laptop, so, perfect.

The clarity of the screen is gorgeous. The flashing when it turns pages might take some getting used to.

I can see what some people say about the thinness of the plastic making it feel - less expensive. I don't mind it, though.

It feels like I have to press REALLY hard on the buttons. I think that might just take some getting used to.

Switching the library of .prc books into it (some DRM, some not) into it was easy with the 6.1 software on my computer. The DRM ones were a little of a pain, since I authorized each individually. I'm guessing once I actually go to the site and update my PID and download later, it'll be better. But all i had to do was type in my username and password for fictionwise for each, which was an easy surprise. It felt too easy, and I was convinced it wouldn't authorize them that way but - no problem!

My cat is intrigued. Who knew that even non-paper books are like catnip to a cat?

Lastly, I am, quite simply, happy.

It's charging through the usb right now and I'm torn between what to read on it first :)

rixte
12-12-2007, 06:19 PM
PS. I received the brown leather cover. Very nicely made and smells lovely, but I haven't actually tried it out yet. I'd ordered the delux edition of the cybook.

diabloNL
12-13-2007, 12:31 AM
I would be surprised if they would send me a black cover. They can't just decide to send you a different cover/color. But I will see. ;)

astra
12-13-2007, 04:29 AM
It is nice and simple to use (yup, good for me! lol) and so light! ..

The cover is excellent! .. my hubby has an iRex and this cover is a gazillion times better! ..

I believe it was a crucial moment when I discovered that there is no good cover for iRex, like I have for Sony, I decided I don't want it :) I don't want to hold the device in my hands, I need a good cover and iRex just seem do not have one.

Paulius
12-13-2007, 09:36 AM
Wow. People are receiving black covers?

I'm just not sure how a company gets away by shipping not the right products to the customers.

treadmill
12-13-2007, 10:11 AM
I just received my new Cybook. It was really lightweight and thin. The display looked marvellous and I thought that I had the perfect ebook reader.

BUT

When I started to read the books, I noticed that button presses required a lot of perssure. I had to grit my teeth and keep pressing the buttons. Around a couple of hours I had hand pain due to the immense pressure I had to exert just to turn a page.

All users of the Cybook can expect thumb and finger problems similar to "gamers thumb" and "blackberry thumb". The device ultimately fails because its not comfortable to use.

Hopefully bookeen allows users to remap the volume controls such that they can be used for page turning. (They're a lot easier to press) Even with this, the cybook isn't comfortable for reading.

I feel really bummed out... My $500 has been wasted...

HarryT
12-13-2007, 10:36 AM
When I started to read the books, I noticed that button presses required a lot of perssure. I had to grit my teeth and keep pressing the buttons. Around a couple of hours I had hand pain due to the immense pressure I had to exert just to turn a page.


There's something wrong there; it needs firm, but certainly not "immense" pressure.

Loopy65
12-13-2007, 10:40 AM
I just received my new Cybook. It was really lightweight and thin. The display looked marvellous and I thought that I had the perfect ebook reader.

BUT

When I started to read the books, I noticed that button presses required a lot of perssure. I had to grit my teeth and keep pressing the buttons. Around a couple of hours I had hand pain due to the immense pressure I had to exert just to turn a page.

All users of the Cybook can expect thumb and finger problems similar to "gamers thumb" and "blackberry thumb". The device ultimately fails because its not comfortable to use.

Hopefully bookeen allows users to remap the volume controls such that they can be used for page turning. (They're a lot easier to press) Even with this, the cybook isn't comfortable for reading.

I feel really bummed out... My $500 has been wasted...

i agree that where the volume buttons are would be a better place for the page turns and also agree that you have to apply definite 'pressure' to get a page turn but as Harry says 'immense pressure' suggests that there's something wrong !!

Loopy

HarryT
12-13-2007, 10:42 AM
Have you tried using both the "right" and the "down" sides of the button, to see which you find better? I find using "right" to be a lot more comfortable than "down". Both work (at least on a page with no hyperlinks).

Krystian Galaj
12-13-2007, 11:30 AM
I use a pen to press the page turning buttons now, as it was hard on my fingernails.

Loopy65
12-13-2007, 03:58 PM
I use a pen to press the page turning buttons now, as it was hard on my fingernails.

yikes! .. mine isn't that hard at all! .. i think i was just spoiled by the ease of page turning for the iRex during the 3 months i had it !!

Loopy

ashalan
12-13-2007, 05:38 PM
When I started to read the books, I noticed that button presses required a lot of perssure. I had to grit my teeth and keep pressing the buttons. Around a couple of hours I had hand pain due to the immense pressure I had to exert just to turn a page.
...
I feel really bummed out... My $500 has been wasted...

While I wouldn't go as far as saying I wasted money (I'd buy the device again tomorrow if mine broke today :) ) I still have to agree with treadmill to some agree.

The page flipping experience is far from what I'd expect it to be, especially when you consider that flipping pages is the most common action. I find the button takes too much pressure to work (not immense pressure, but still too much). Also the button has pretty sharp edges (my daughter actually hurt herself trying to flip a page).

Moreover, as already discussed elsewhere, the Cybook tends to be unresponsive to page flipping button 'clicks' 1 out of 10 times. Sure, there is a way to press the button to ensure the CyBook always responds to requested paging ... but do I really want to firmly press the button down and hold it for a split second when I want to flip a page?

Also, for my taste, the position of the navigation button could have been almost anywhere on the device, but not where it is now ;) I really never held a paper book the way the CyBook makes me hold it. Normally I position my thumbs along the edges of the pages, the remaining fingers behind the book, or I cradle the book in hand with the thumb at the bottom and the remaning fingers at the top. But then, I guess that part if a matter of personal preference.

Apart from page flipping I am a VERY happy new CyBook user and in the office today the device got quite a few Oohhs and Ahhs and 'Where did you get that and how much did it cost?' :thumbsup:

treadmill
12-13-2007, 06:09 PM
I'm gonna try the pen technique just mentioned. I'm also thinking about using a coin (or some other thing for leverage).

It would really be great if we could somehow configure the centre button to do the page flipping. The page flipping button is what we need to push the most, so the centre button would work best. [B](Lets all email bookeen on this one)

And you know what else would work? Some kind of auto page turning feature. If we could set the reader to turn pages every 5 or 6 pages. (Kinda like the slideshow feature thats already present)

I've had friends who've gotten blackberry thumb and that was just by pressing the buttons on a cellphone (which are much easier to press).... Trust me, you guys need to watch out for thumb injuries.

And if anyone has tips on making page turning easier (like the pen technique), please share :)!

wallcraft
12-13-2007, 06:24 PM
Hopefully bookeen allows users to remap the volume controls such that they can be used for page turning. (They're a lot easier to press) Based on the manual, it seems that the 4 keys in the "left view" are ripe for remapping. At a minimum "delete file (not available)" should be changed to page forward.

thydere
12-14-2007, 01:52 AM
Got my Cybook too. :)

Though I never had an eBook device before and don't know people who own those for comparison with other devices, I feel that I made the right choice with this one.

I like both the Design of the device and the placement of the Buttons (it's exactly the way I hold books when im sitting lazily on my couch ;) ) - though I agree that the navigation button could have been much nicer if it had been one of those found on Mobile Phones or Playstationcontrollers - and turning the delete button into a shortkey to the bookmark menu would also be appreciated. I don't mind the plastic outlet - though it is pretty lose on the left button side thus resulting in creaks when holding it there.
The supported file types include the ones I require - I prefer html as it is the one easiest to convert and reuse, though it would be nice if Bookeen would support more elements, as neither toc support (by parsing the h1-6 elements) nor metatags (html intrinsic, dublin core) are supported at the time being.

So far I've read a whole day nonstop on the device without any eye problems I usually get when reading digital text. This alone, though it is more a benefit of the used eInk display than the Cybook itself, is worth it!

However I discovered some problems. One of ten page turns the device does not actually turns the page although it does process something as can be seen by the green activity light. Pressing the page turn button again will then do the trick (is that the same problem You discovered, ashalan?).
At the beginning I've changed the fonts several times to see whether I actually like a serif or sans-serif font better. This behaviour (after 3 or four repeated changes) lead to a crashing of the device in that the display froze at the last displayed screen and the device was definitely off (no button response pressing the power button resulted in the startup process). This is reproducible (deleting the font cache doesn't help).
Sometimes the device does not remember the last read page when jumping into the library and back. Over a period of several hours the last remembered page did not change - no matter to which page (first, last, inbetween,...) I turned. However after an irreproducible crash while turning pages it worked again.
These problems might only be related to html pages since so far I've read content in that format only.

The device also does not remember its Flashing Refresh setting. I prefer the no refresh setting since the remaining text fragments kind of feel like reading a real book or a newspaper with thin or semi-translucent pages, but I have to reset this setting every time since its set to on the next time I power the Cybook off and on again.

However after my initial play and discover period and once I switched to reading, I was pleased with the Cybook. I think it is a pretty good device - and will become even better, once Bookeen improves the stability and adds some more features to its html part (toc generation from structure elements, display of current page, metadata, ...).

Besides: is there a possibility to zoom in/out when viewing pictures?

ashalan
12-14-2007, 02:26 AM
However I discovered some problems. One of ten page turns the device does not actually turns the page although it does process something as can be seen by the green activity light. Pressing the page turn button again will then do the trick (is that the same problem You discovered, ashalan?).

Yup. There is a whole thread talking about this by the way, which you can find here : http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16456 :)

I found pressing the button firmly down and holding it for a split second always works. Yet, as I mentioned, it's not exactly the way I would want it to be ... can't have everything, can I? :p

HarryT
12-14-2007, 02:28 AM
Besides: is there a possibility to zoom in/out when viewing pictures?

Not at the moment; hopefully they'll add an "image mode" for zooming/panning images like the PDA and desktop versions of the Mobi reader have.

leeloo
12-14-2007, 07:22 AM
It's very small, very light, and very, very cool. It was easy to load the 50-odd books I had accumulated while waiting, using VMWare Fusion on my Mac Mini to run the MobiPocket desktop software. The library looks quite cool, although navigating through hundreds of items would be a pain.

In order to turn a page it does require a solid, prolonged press of the quite firm button. I noticed that at first I was very tense when holding the Cybook, which made my thumb tire out. But when I made myself relax (it really is very, very light, so needs virtually no effort to hold) turning pages became almost unconscious. (The machine does seem to get into a state sometimes where the press is acknowledged -- the green light goes on -- but not enough to actually turn the page.)

Indeed, my highest praise is that it is possible to forget the medium entirely and concentrate on the message -- it seems just as easy (maybe even easier) to become engrossed in a book on the Cybook as with its dead-tree counterpart.

I very much look forward to taking the Cybook with me when I travel, no longer leaving me prey to the quality of bookshops (and time to visit them) at my destination. And being able to hold my new son in one arm and the Cybook in the other hand and read comfortably is marvelous (:

Moonraker
12-14-2007, 08:06 AM
My first impressions of the Gen 3 are very favourable - apart from a sore thumb. In just 30 mins of reading my thumb was hurting and I knew I wouldn't be happy until I got it sorted.

My solution was to use a chisel-shaped ink eraser. This is firm enough to press the page forward button without damaging the device.

Another thing I noticed was that the page was whiter with better contrast than that of my iLiad. The iLiad is a first generation device and has had long daily use since I got it.

I am very pleased with the way HTML files flow nicely even though they cannot display images yet.

:bookworm:

Barcey
12-14-2007, 11:36 AM
I've noticed that the page forward button on my has worn in over time. I'm not sure if others have the same experience. After reading the first day my thumb was a little sore but now I don't even notice it. I don't think it takes more pressure to push the button then clicking the spring on a pen. I certainly never had the kind of experience that treadmill is describing though. Sounds like a button defect.

Sparrow
12-14-2007, 12:11 PM
The thin foam that the sleeve is made from makes a comfortable button cushion.

SandySchwab
12-14-2007, 12:40 PM
My three hours of charging were up about an hour ago (hooray!), so I started playing around with the Cybook. My first impressions: wow! booting up is fast! The display is lovely -- the contrast between light grey background and blackish font is just great, imo. There's a lot to discover, but it takes only a while until you know which button does what.

Button pressing: yup, the buttons for page turning are somewhat awkwardly placed; the Menu button in the middle would have been a better choice. And indeed, you have to exert some pressure to make the page turn. I guess I'll get used to that, though.

Library: navigation is not ideal, especially if you've got many files on your device. I've renamed all my e-books and inserted a description of the genre in the file name, so iif I sort the library according to file names, I've got at least all the mysteries, all the romances, all the classics, etc. in one place.

As a first-time user of an e-reader I was, of course, curious how difficult downloading a book from one of the online bookstores is -- not difficult at all. :) I've already bought several books on Fictionwise and registering the PID, downloading the books, and transferring them onto the Cybook went smoothly and without any problems. Hooray!

So now I just have to find time to read all those new books! :D

Loopy65
12-14-2007, 03:03 PM
The thin foam that the sleeve is made from makes a comfortable button cushion.

Glad yours arrived Sparrow (well I'm assuming it did unless you're halucinating from all the stress of waiting!)

Loopy

tompe
12-14-2007, 03:20 PM
I've noticed that the page forward button on my has worn in over time. I'm not sure if others have the same experience.

I also have notice that the forward button is now easier to press then the up and down button. It has clearly gotten better over time.

Sparrow
12-14-2007, 03:36 PM
Glad yours arrived Sparrow (well I'm assuming it did unless you're halucinating from all the stress of waiting!)

Loopy


Thanks Loopy. Finally got it earlier today, after a bit of foot stamping with Fed Ex - the driver tried to deliver it to the wrong address at the first attempt; and they weren't going to try again till Monday.

Still - definitely worth the aggravation, now I've got my mitts on it :2thumbsup

Ottawa411
12-17-2007, 08:54 AM
I have mixed feelings after a short time using my Cybook. It has incredible text quality. The battery life is great. It is very compact. It uses many different formats. BUT! I have a problem with turning pages. Boot time is too long. It is very difficult to find out how to get cover images to display in the library. PDF files are useless. Organization of files is difficult at best. I wish that they had taken the best qualities of my Ebookwise 1150 and combined them with the Cybook. It boots instantly. It restarts where I stopped reading. It displays page numbers. For how long this took to get to market, they really should have refined it a lot more. I would also like to see support for more file formats including .lit and proper use of PDF files. I am just hoping for firmware updates. I am not too confident with their lack of support so far though.

HarryT
12-17-2007, 09:18 AM
BUT! I have a problem with turning pages.

What problem are you having?

Boot time is too long.

If you're happy with recharging every 4-5 days, you can disable auto-shutdown and it's then available for instant use.

It is very difficult to find out how to get cover images to display in the library.

How do you create your books? If you use MobiGen or Book Designer just set the cover image and it should display fine.

PDF files are useless.

You're absolutely right; PDF files are useless. It's a format which was never intended as an eBook format and it's the worst possible choice of format for an eBook. This is not Bookeen's fault!

fugsly
12-17-2007, 05:20 PM
It arrived today and I'm extremely please. My lovely partner even wrapped it in chrissy paper for me and fooled me into thinking it was a 'naughty' gift that he didn't want me to open in front of others. Best surprise evah. :)

I don't seem to have the problem that some have mentioned about the page turning button. I was worried it would be annoying but it's not hard to press at all (on mine anyway). The page turn time is quick enough for me and much easier than trying to turn pages quietly when the person next to you is sleeping. Ever noticed how much more noise you make when you're trying so hard to be quiet?

The screen is absolutely amazing. I have dyslexia and find reading black on white a bit difficult, especially after prolonged staring. Tends to all blur into one. The slightly more gray background is wonderful and much easier on the eyes.

It's very very light. I imagine this will be a hige selling point for my sister who has bad joints. Not having to carry around huge books will help as well no doubt! I'm looking forward to the novelty of packing for my holiday this year without the agony of which books to take. More shoe room! (damn, which shoes should i take!?)

The only problem for me has to do with Bookeen sending me a different cover than i ordered. I know that the black one is more exspensive and it's nice enough (very soft and sturdy). It's more that they didn't bother to contact me to explain or include a note. But i'll be contacting them about that and we'll see what happens.

delphidb96
12-17-2007, 05:26 PM
Fugsly,

That has pretty much happened (the not being notified of the change in design) to a lot of Bookeen customers. Don't know why and I'm jealous of you because they never even offered me the chance at a softcover when I bought the engineering sample back in September. :)

Derek

ricdiogo
12-17-2007, 05:55 PM
I've received my Cybook today and I'm loving it. Although I think this technology is actually quite primitive. But it's extremely useful and I plan on reading the books from Gutenberg that I'd have to print otherwise. It needs folders support and text highlighting. From 0 to 20 I'd give it a 17.

fugsly
12-17-2007, 05:56 PM
delphid: Yeah I had a feeling it would be the black one that arrived from reading posts but a quick email one have been nice :)

It is a very nice cover, it's the annoying 'principle' thing for me i'm afraid.

It's something about Bookeen that worry me a little but hopefully customer support will improve. Actually, change that to 'hopefully customer support will never be needed'.

Hasn't dampened my enthusiasm for the machine one bit though, I've been looking forward to it very much and it hasn't dissapointed. I think my mates were looking forward to not being annoyed about me going on about it but i fear it's going to get worse for them now i actually have it.

diabloNL
12-18-2007, 10:36 AM
My first impression was that it looks and feels a bit cheap to be honest. The buttons and plastic used don't look like quality. The buttons look like those found on cheap mp3 players. Fingerprints are very hard to remove from the plastic housing.

The good thing is that it works really well. I didn't spend too much time yet with it, but the screen looks very nice. For my feeling more than 20% whiter than claimed. The refresh rate is also very fast and the look-up function is really nice to have.

So my first impression was that I found it quite expensive for the build quality. But when I started the puppy up and looked around I felt a lot better. ;)

HappyMartin
12-19-2007, 03:01 AM
I have played around a little with my wifes reader and I like it. Not like I would swop my iliad for it or anything but for away holidays I would love to have one.

The page turning button was, is, a little stiff but seems to be loosening up as it wears in. It was shipped with a black cover that is identical in every way but size to the one I bought with my iliad. Seems OK to me.

I need to double check but my wife frequently complains that the dictionary lookup fails to find words which I find odd as she has the same dictionary as I do and for me it never misses. It is the excellent Chambers dictionary recommended by Harry.

I hope to buy myself this device next year, just for carrying around you understand.:D

JohnFC
12-19-2007, 03:32 AM
I just received my Cybook Gen3 yesterday. Overall, it's very impressive and the display is much more comfortable than reading my smartphone. I am a satisfied customer and wish I'd ordered the leather cover now.

I have one small issue... when I put a SD card in the slot it became jammed there. When I push the card to eject, it does not pop-out. Eventually I had to use tweezers to yank the card out of the slot. I have a Sandisk 1GB SD card that was bought in 2005. It seems like the SD slot on the top of the eBook is a bit narrower than other devices.

Did anyone else have this problem? I am not planning to return the ebook, but will probably just buy a 2GB card and leave it in the device permanently.

Do you think it's a design flaw or there's something specifically wrong with my ebook?

John

HarryT
12-19-2007, 03:37 AM
Are you sure you pushed it down far enough? It needs pushing down a fair way before it pops out!

Danny Fekete
12-19-2007, 10:25 AM
I have one small issue... when I put a SD card in the slot it became jammed there. When I push the card to eject, it does not pop-out. Eventually I had to use tweezers to yank the card out of the slot. I have a Sandisk 1GB SD card that was bought in 2005. It seems like the SD slot on the top of the eBook is a bit narrower than other devices.

Did anyone else have this problem? I am not planning to return the ebook, but will probably just buy a 2GB card and leave it in the device permanently.

John, out of curiosity, were you able to confirm that the 1GB card was working normally while it was jammed in there?

- Danny

JohnFC
12-20-2007, 01:29 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys. The SD card was appearing as a storage drive in Windows when I connected the Cybook via USB. I managed to copy files to/from the SD card without a problem.

I will buy a 2GB card on the weekend and install it in the ebook. If no problems, I'll just leave it there and forget about this issue.

John

JohnFC
12-20-2007, 01:33 AM
To answer HarryT's question, I pushed the SD card in as far as it would go. I used the tip of a pen to push the card. The card just bounced back to the original position and did not eject.

bob_ninja
12-27-2007, 08:05 AM
My first impression was that it looks and feels a bit cheap to be honest. The buttons and plastic used don't look like quality. The buttons look like those found on cheap mp3 players. Fingerprints are very hard to remove from the plastic housing.

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Yeah I am surprised how often companies try to save a few bucks on buttons!?!?!?! Buttons are one of the most used parts of a device so you'd think they spend bit more for a better quality and easier to press buttons.

With some practice you learn the optimal angle and force to use. After a while my thumb gets tired though.

diabloNL
12-27-2007, 08:21 AM
Yeah I am surprised how often companies try to save a few bucks on buttons!?!?!?! Buttons are one of the most used parts of a device so you'd think they spend bit more for a better quality and easier to press buttons.

With some practice you learn the optimal angle and force to use. After a while my thumb gets tired though.

My directional button is already loosing its (paint?). :(

bob_ninja
12-27-2007, 10:04 AM
I am hoping next software update will add up/down option for plus/minus buttons. Then if/when the cursor keys fail we'd still be able to use plus/minus instead.