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kenflyken
11-29-2007, 05:56 AM
I have bought my own Iliad a month ago, and I absolutely love it! Take it everyday everywhere. Now, I've promised my nephew that I'd buy him an e-book reader for reading/annotating textbooks (his school has .pdf textbooks available, most of which are a tad larger than A4 size) as a New Year present.

From what I've heard, the Hanlin V9t with touchscreen is coming up at the end of next January, but things may change depending whether the e-ink screens will be available on time or not. Also, pricing of the V9t is still undeclared, and I'm not willing to spend more than $700 for a reader. The features are still unclear as well, whether if it will be able to write notes and/or merge them onto .pdf files...?

But the most exciting thing about the V9 is a 10 inch screen; I'm still green with envy even though I already have an Iliad. So..that is why it's so hard to make this decision.

So, do you think that I should wait for the V9t or just go for the Iliad?

tribble
11-29-2007, 07:09 AM
I do not expect the V9 to be released on Dez. 31st 2007. And i expect the price tag to be at around 900$.

kenflyken
11-29-2007, 07:27 AM
I do not expect the V9 to be released on Dez. 31st 2007. And i expect the price tag to be at around 900$.

Is it typical for e-book readers to be delayed, as this seems to be the case for Cybook 3 as well as the Kindle? Then...I should go with the Iliad?

tribble
11-29-2007, 08:39 AM
As far as i know, PVI still has problems with the larger E-Ink screens. And since the technology is very new, delays are to be expected.

And since the iLiad is the only available choice at the moment, i would go for it. There i no way to tell when the V9t will be available and when it is, how well the software will do. Especially in terms of notetaking.

HarryT
11-29-2007, 08:58 AM
Is it typical for e-book readers to be delayed, as this seems to be the case for Cybook 3 as well as the Kindle? Then...I should go with the Iliad?

PVI are the only manufacturer of eInk screens, and I suspect that their production facilities are running flat-out trying to deal with the demand for Sony, Bookeen, and Kindle readers at present. They probably have very little incentive to try to "hurry along" new, larger screens if they lack the production capacity to produce them.

tribble
11-29-2007, 01:01 PM
PVI are the only manufacturer of eInk screens, and I suspect that their production facilities are running flat-out trying to deal with the demand for Sony, Bookeen, and Kindle readers at present. They probably have very little incentive to try to "hurry along" new, larger screens if they lack the production capacity to produce them.

They probably had a good reason to buy a company which has 3 new production facilities ;)

kenflyken
12-01-2007, 10:25 PM
I've finally made up my mind and ordered the Iliad.

Thank you, Tribble and HarryT, for the insight. :)

tribble
12-02-2007, 03:45 AM
Then i hope, the iLiad will be a great companion for you. Enjoy your new toy. ;)

searcher
12-02-2007, 05:40 AM
PVI are the only manufacturer of eInk screens


Not true. polymer vision also made eink screens.
http://www.polymervision.com/

;)

kenflyken
12-02-2007, 09:07 AM
Not true. polymer vision also made eink screens.
http://www.polymervision.com/

;)

But I understand that PVI is the only manufacturer whose screens are currently used to produce commercial readers. Also, polymervision is focused on roll-able displays rather than e-ink screens for e-readers.

HarryT
12-02-2007, 09:07 AM
Not true. polymer vision also made eink screens.
http://www.polymervision.com/

;)

But (and please correct me if I'm wrong) no device which uses them is actually on the market yet, is it?

searcher
12-02-2007, 09:43 AM
irex didn't use PVI. They made their own displays somewhere in japan.
Polymer vision will produce first flexible displays very soon.

But PVI, polymer vision and etc. are very small players on this market. The huge player will be lg.philips. :cool:

tribble
12-02-2007, 10:13 AM
irex didn't use PVI.
Wrong. iRex has PVI manufacture their displays.

Polymer vision will produce first flexible displays very soon.
Whats soon? Got any more detailed info?
PlasticLogic is supposed to massproduce flexible einkscreens mid 2008.

But PVI, polymer vision and etc. are very small players on this market. The huge player will be lg.philips. :cool:
I doubt, that Philips will play soon, beceuse iRex and PolymerVision are two companies, who have resultet from Philips because Philips did not really want to get into that market. And i havent heard anything about LG.

JSWolf
12-02-2007, 11:15 AM
v9t is an unknown as to when it will actually be made available for sale. Yes, you can wait for it, but do you want to wait and unknown amount of time? And that unknown amount of time won't be until sometime 2008. So you'll be waiting at least a month and probably longer.

searcher
12-02-2007, 11:21 AM
because Philips did not really want to get into that market.


They want to get into the market and they are not stupid.:)

http://img.aujourdhuilacoree.com/media/photo/LCD%20flexible%20.jpg

From the news, May 14, 2007
LG.Philips LCD has developed the world?s first 14.1-inch flexible color E-paper display, equivalent in size to an A4 sheet of paper.
The 14.1-inch flexible color E-paper uses electronic ink from E-Ink Corp. to produce a maximum of 4,096 colors. It can be viewed from a full 180 degrees, so that images always appear crisp, even when the display is bent.


PVI is far away from this. ;)

tribble
12-02-2007, 11:26 AM
PVI is far away from this. ;)

Thats from the labs. I have seen lots of great stuff from the labs. The iLiads display is from Philips labs, and so is the flexible displays from PolymerVision. I was referring to real world manufacturing ;)

But if LG would start mass manufacturing e-ink displays, that would be really good for competition. Ans i sure would like a 14" color eink device at home.

searcher
12-02-2007, 11:46 AM
PVI are too small to compete with multi billions companies like lg.philips.

Companies like pvi and polymer vision just tested the market before big fishes decided to get in.

kenflyken
12-03-2007, 04:52 AM
Isn't PolymerVision a Phillips subsidiary?

searcher
12-03-2007, 06:05 AM
Actually yes. Philips keeps best patents and soon will be the biggest e-ink display manufacturer.

http://www.gearlog.com/2007/07/lg_philips_patents_oil_and_wat.php

woldinghamuk
12-16-2007, 10:33 AM
A little bit more info on the specs:

http://www.jinke.com.cn/Compagesql/English/embedpro/index.asp