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tklaus
11-23-2007, 05:20 PM
I did a quick check of the top 30 books on the "100 best novels of the twentieth century":

http://www.randomhouse.com/modernlibrary/100bestnovels.html

and saw that many of these are missing from Kindle. This includes:


anything by William Faulkner
anything by John Steinbeck
Catch-22
Darkness at Noon
Under the Volcano
I, Claudius
A Passage to India
The Lord of the Rings
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Catcher in the Rye
Animal Farm
most books by John Irving


...and many others. I guess this is just a problem with e-books in general, but I hope this situation improves!

Nate the great
11-23-2007, 06:30 PM
Which ones are in the public domain?

How many of those did you find here?

vrf
11-23-2007, 08:05 PM
Try doing a search for any Pulitzer prize-winning novels, and it's a wasteland.

For some people's reading habits, the Kindle still has zero content. I'm not interested until they fix that problem.

tklaus
11-23-2007, 11:29 PM
Yes, there does seem to be a dearth of content that's not quite old enough to be in the public domain, but too old to be a 'best seller'. According to their website, Project Guttenburg is mostly older than 1923. I guess I can't blame Amazon for going with what sells, but my Kindle won't be completely replacing the printed page for a while...

tklaus
11-23-2007, 11:30 PM
Which ones are in the public domain?

How many of those did you find here?

None and none! I guess they're just not old enough.

JSWolf
11-23-2007, 11:32 PM
Yes, there does seem to be a dearth of content that's not quite old enough to be in the public domain, but too old to be a 'best seller'. According to their website, Project Guttenburg is mostly older than 1923. I guess I can't blame Amazon for going with what sells, but my Kindle won't be completely replacing the printed page for a while...
There are LOTS of books not available in ebook form in any format. It's going to be that way for a LONG time.

tklaus
11-23-2007, 11:46 PM
Well, Jeff Bezos did say in multiple interviews that his vision is to have "every book that has ever been in print". I wonder how far out his vision goes?

SanAntone
11-24-2007, 12:18 AM
I watched the Charlie Rose interview with him. He said their goal is to have all the books digitized in 5 years. He also said that he wasn't sure they would meet that ambitious goal...but I like what he's thinking. This is the kind of attitude we need to get ebooks going!

gteague
11-24-2007, 03:58 AM
I did a quick check of the top 30 books on the "100 best novels of the twentieth century":

http://www.randomhouse.com/modernlibrary/100bestnovels.html

and saw that many of these are missing from Kindle. This includes:


anything by William Faulkner
anything by John Steinbeck
Catch-22
Darkness at Noon
Under the Volcano
I, Claudius
A Passage to India
The Lord of the Rings
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Catcher in the Rye
Animal Farm
most books by John Irving


...and many others. I guess this is just a problem with e-books in general, but I hope this situation improves!


under the volcano is in the top 100? i thought it was an obscure work that only i and john huston had read! [g]

/guy

MonkeyKnits57
08-16-2008, 04:25 PM
I have a copy of Animal Farm. I must have gotten it from feedbooks if I did not get it here :).

MoSo
08-16-2008, 04:49 PM
I think they will be available (didn't Penguin say they planned on releasing almost everything in ebook form?). And those don't bother me because those books are the ones I KEEP, the ones that line my shelves. While I will buy the ebook version of many of them, I use my Kindle mostly for the disposable or pleasure reading, with some serious reading on the side.

wallcraft
08-16-2008, 04:59 PM
I have a copy of Animal Farm. George Orwell died in 1950, so this is out of copyright in Life+50 countries but not in the US. Even so, Animal Farm and 1984 are available at the Kindle Store. These editions may be paying royalties to the copyright owners, although this seems unlikely for the $2.40 offerings.

desertgrandma
08-16-2008, 05:01 PM
I did a quick check of the top 30 books on the "100 best novels of the twentieth century":

http://www.randomhouse.com/modernlibrary/100bestnovels.html

and saw that many of these are missing from Kindle. This includes:


anything by William Faulkner
anything by John Steinbeck
Catch-22
Darkness at Noon
Under the Volcano
I, Claudius
A Passage to India
The Lord of the Rings
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Catcher in the Rye
Animal Farm
most books by John Irving


...and many others. I guess this is just a problem with e-books in general, but I hope this situation improves!


You need to check again. Amazon.com, under Kindle books, has John Steinbeck, Animal Farm, A couple by John Irving. Now, if you are talking 'free', thats another matter.

RickyMaveety
08-16-2008, 05:52 PM
Try doing a search for any Pulitzer prize-winning novels, and it's a wasteland.

For some people's reading habits, the Kindle still has zero content. I'm not interested until they fix that problem.

They might fix that problem if you let them know you want to see it in a Kindle edition. There is a spot to click for each book not in Kindle format that you would like to see in Kindle format. I'm clicking away like a mad thing ... even for books that I have absolutely no interest in reading. I just know that others might ... and so I'm sticking a vote in the box for them too.

RickyMaveety
08-16-2008, 05:55 PM
I did a quick check of the top 30 books on the "100 best novels of the twentieth century":

http://www.randomhouse.com/modernlibrary/100bestnovels.html

and saw that many of these are missing from Kindle. This includes:


anything by William Faulkner
anything by John Steinbeck
Catch-22
Darkness at Noon
Under the Volcano
I, Claudius
A Passage to India
The Lord of the Rings
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Catcher in the Rye
Animal Farm
most books by John Irving


...and many others. I guess this is just a problem with e-books in general, but I hope this situation improves!

I counted ten of John Steinbeck's novels available for the Kindle in the Kindle Store today. So .... how did you manage to come up with zero?? Maybe the search needs to be done again??? Just saying .... :D


ERG!!! I just realized how OLD the original post was. OLD .... ancient .... dusty!! Yes, by all means, do the search again. There are things that are still missing, but there are quite a few things on your list starting to crop up. (I think all of the John Steinbeck has a Kindle edition date of June 24, 2008.)

mgrunk
09-01-2008, 08:03 PM
FWIW, I found this thread while looking for a source for Faulkner, but Sony Reader does have Steinbeck, Fitzgerald, George Orwell, E.M. Forster, among others - but - no Faulkner. So perhaps that will prompt Kindle a bit? I just bought a Sony PR505 yesterday, but hope to see the Kindle content improve. I am disappointed to see "literature" overlooked.

daffy4u
09-01-2008, 08:15 PM
FWIW, I found this thread while looking for a source for Faulkner, but Sony Reader does have Steinbeck, Fitzgerald, George Orwell, E.M. Forster, among others - but - no Faulkner. So perhaps that will prompt Kindle a bit? I just bought a Sony PR505 yesterday, but hope to see the Kindle content improve. I am disappointed to see "literature" overlooked.

This thread is old. Authors that were missing when it started are now carried on the Kindle (along with the Sony Store):

Steinbeck (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_kinc?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text&field-keywords=steinbeck&x=0&y=0)
Orwell (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url?_encoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=digital-text&field-author=George%20Orwell)
Fitzgerald (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_kinc?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text&field-keywords=fitzgerald&x=0&y=0)
Forster (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_kinc?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text&field-keywords=E.M.+Forster&x=0&y=0)

As with Sony, there is no Faulkner in the Kindle store.

Keep checking, they pop up with little fanfare. :)