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SanAntone
11-23-2007, 01:26 PM
There are currently 91,626 books available in Amazon for the Kindle as of today.

Let's track it and see how often Amazon updates/adds new books...might be interesting.

So...let's post when there is a change.

cfc
11-23-2007, 02:00 PM
I actually checked this yesterday and the total books listed was 91,560.

chrisc
11-23-2007, 02:10 PM
Friday, Nov. 27, 2007 = 91,626 Results

chrisc
11-23-2007, 02:11 PM
whoops it was started today.

igorsk
11-23-2007, 04:58 PM
Bear in mind that this number includes short stories and various articles.

SanAntone
11-23-2007, 05:14 PM
Interesting....just a few hours later and it's 91,633. It's neat to see that books are being continually added.

By the way, I'm looking under the "Books" section only. Let's not get wrapped around whether they are short stories or not. :unafraid: What I'm interested in is how much new content is being added. :crowngrin

vivaldirules
11-23-2007, 05:59 PM
I've been tracking Sony's total offerings by category at two weeks intervals since September and will continue to do so. It might be useful to tabulate this info together somewhere for these two vendors and some others, as well.

SanAntone
11-23-2007, 06:09 PM
Good idea vivaldi! The more both stores grow the better it is for all of us.

pixiepurls
11-23-2007, 07:58 PM
also bear in mind it may include books uploaded by non-publishers, has anyone researched if those are included or in a separate section? I know some people have already uploaded their own works for sale.

gteague
11-23-2007, 09:26 PM
also bear in mind it may include books uploaded by non-publishers, has anyone researched if those are included or in a separate section? I know some people have already uploaded their own works for sale.

i did. it was fun. but you don't want to buy it, i just published a page from my web site.

and if you think about that you begin to see perhaps some rationale for the levy article. some no-name like me actually gets 'published'. at least using of definition of 'published' that someone could actually buy something i'd written.

that one fact alone may convince me to keep my kindle in spite of everything else screaming for me to return it and get an asus instead ... [g]

/guy

TallMomof2
11-24-2007, 01:14 PM
November 24, 2007: 91,698

Zoot
11-24-2007, 01:53 PM
Well, if you go to the Kindle Books section on Amazon and change it to sort by publication date so the newest stuff is first and then page thought it for a while it becomes clear that a lot of this is rubbish.

I suspect Amazon will keep touting the number of books they offer in a somewhat Stalin-esque "quantity has a quality all its own" way, but I don't think this is the best metric to use to evaluate the amount of useful content that's available.

I think the bestseller lists (which they're obviously working hard to provide) and number of books by popular authors, and percentage of books you'd find at your local Borders would all make better measures of the growth of the Amazon ebook store over time.

Z.

Rocketime
11-24-2007, 02:10 PM
Well, if you go to the Kindle Books section on Amazon and change it to sort by publication date so the newest stuff is first and then page thought it for a while it becomes clear that a lot of this is rubbish.

I suspect Amazon will keep touting the number of books they offer in a somewhat Stalin-esque "quantity has a quality all its own" way, but I don't think this is the best metric to use to evaluate the amount of useful content that's available.

I think the bestseller lists (which they're obviously working hard to provide) and number of books by popular authors, and percentage of books you'd find at your local Borders would all make better measures of the growth of the Amazon ebook store over time.

Z.

You are right on here. Quality means everything when it comes to selection of books, music, movies and just about everything else.

It would be grreat if someone could quantify the number of most popular or quality numbers of publications between Amazon and Connect. I would be most interested in that kind of information.

vivaldirules
11-24-2007, 03:21 PM
It would be grreat if someone could quantify the number of most popular or quality numbers of publications between Amazon and Connect. I would be most interested in that kind of information.

Me, too. But how? For Amazon, I can only see totalling the number of books in each category, much the way I'm doing now for the Sony site. For Sony, I could add the number of book award winners and nominees they offer since these are listed separately, although that's still a bit of work. I don't see any easy way to quantify quality further at either site. But if you have any ideas, let me know. Otherwise, you're right - they can offer a lot of trash but who cares?

Gibbo
11-24-2007, 04:09 PM
24 November 22:08 , 2007: 91,710

gteague
11-24-2007, 05:29 PM
Well, if you go to the Kindle Books section on Amazon and change it to sort by publication date so the newest stuff is first and then page thought it for a while it becomes clear that a lot of this is rubbish.

<del>

i do have to say that i don't consider my submission 'rubbish'. i was helping edit a book of fairy tales for a friend and wrote my own fairy tale. but it didn't fit the 'style' of the book, so i just put it up on my web page until now. i really do think it's worth the 99-cents i priced it at (well, maybe 49-cents might have been better, but there were already a million seletions at that price point), price chosen on the basis of what one song costs at apple itunes store.

/guy

cfc
11-26-2007, 06:11 PM
91,852 Kindle books available.

azog
11-27-2007, 08:13 AM
I was curious myself, so I see 92,221 showing today. At least 20 pages of those are pre-releases...

Edit: They're playing games. Five minutes later, they show 91,938, and sorting by pub date doesn't show all those pre-releases.

markbot
11-29-2007, 06:56 PM
92,694 current

hkabir
12-01-2007, 02:40 AM
In last couple of days, amazon has added more than 800 kindle edition ebooks. However, here is disturbing story about how they are distributed among different categories: http://www.kindlenews.info

markbot
12-01-2007, 10:49 AM
don't forget that any joe can now publish books....and this will be added to the Kindle list.

dougcar
12-01-2007, 06:56 PM
Of the twelve I've tried, only two were in Kindle form. I kind of expected that with 92,000, wow, anything i wanted would be kindleable.

markbot
12-11-2007, 10:04 PM
94,107 as of Dec 11, 2007

JSWolf
12-11-2007, 10:41 PM
The number of available ebooks is irrelevant. What is relevant is what ebook are available that you actually want. Before you purchase a reader of any kind, go look at the various online shops and see what you find and then make your choice. Without the content, the reader is just a doorstop.

azog
12-12-2007, 06:01 AM
The number of available ebooks is irrelevant. What is relevant is what ebook are available that you actually want. Before you purchase a reader of any kind, go look at the various online shops and see what you find and then make your choice. Without the content, the reader is just a doorstop.

Not entirely. I'd say the basic premise of "supply and demand" operates here. A greater number of books would increase the sales of the Kindle. Higher sales of the Kindle will drive up demand on content.

jasonkchapman
12-12-2007, 07:04 AM
Not entirely. I'd say the basic premise of "supply and demand" operates here. A greater number of books would increase the sales of the Kindle. Higher sales of the Kindle will drive up demand on content.

Unless there's a market backlash over the extremely low signal-to-noise ratio. That goes to reputation and loss of customer goodwill.

Besides the same forces affect every other e-book reader as well. In fact, for the health of the industry overall, I would track the multi-format offerings at Fictionwise and the other vendors not tied to a specific unit.

silvania
12-12-2007, 07:53 AM
Do we really want ebook vendors playing these kinds of number games? Adding content for content sake, no matter what the editorial control?

For example, any ebook vendor can add tens of thousands of "titles" to their catalog by picking up self-published books published by the likes of Xlibris or iUniverse from LSI. But these titles are typically so poor that you will find multiple spelling errors on every page. There is zero editorial control.

By focusing on the amazon title counts, which by the way do include tons of self-published items, are we forcing every ebook vendor to compete with these numbers by adding a lot of muck that is not worth reading?

Just a thought.

carld
12-12-2007, 09:04 AM
I was looking at the Kindle store this morning, and sorted them by publishing date and was surprised that there weren't a lot more self-published books there. Although there were a number of classics available elsewhere for free, most were good solid books. Also some of the apparently self-published books actually looked interesting.

I've read though that you can't preview the self-published books by reading the first chapter, that's disappointing if true.

silvania
12-14-2007, 08:05 AM
I was looking at the Kindle store this morning, and sorted them by publishing date and was surprised that there weren't a lot more self-published books there. Although there were a number of classics available elsewhere for free, most were good solid books. Also some of the apparently self-published books actually looked interesting.

I've read though that you can't preview the self-published books by reading the first chapter, that's disappointing if true.

How do you know which books are self-published? There are numerous "vanity presses" who do ebooks, like Xlibris, FirstBooks, iUniverse (actually i believe FirstBooks renamed themselves iUniverse to try to avoid detection as a vanity press). These companies take a fee, usually a few hundred dollars, to accept any book no matter how bad, then put those books through the major ebook feeds.

The titles may look very interesting. But your interest soon dissipates as you find the writing is pure gibberish with 2 to 5 spelling errors on each and every page. I'm not saying every single one is like that, but I have investigated some of these books and a goodly percentage really are that bad.

carld
12-14-2007, 09:12 AM
How do you know which books are self-published? There are numerous "vanity presses" who do ebooks, like Xlibris, FirstBooks, iUniverse (actually i believe FirstBooks renamed themselves iUniverse to try to avoid detection as a vanity press). These companies take a fee, usually a few hundred dollars, to accept any book no matter how bad, then put those books through the major ebook feeds.

The titles may look very interesting. But your interest soon dissipates as you find the writing is pure gibberish with 2 to 5 spelling errors on each and every page. I'm not saying every single one is like that, but I have investigated some of these books and a goodly percentage really are that bad.

Well, of course I don't actually *know*, so I said apparently. I could have been clearer about that though. However, sometimes you can just tell based on the cover, the description and the price what's ilikely self-published. If it's something I'm really interested in and there's no sample chapter I'll probably google the author and book to see what comes up.

And I do expect a lot of the self-published stuff is trash (more the pity that they don't have preview chapters) but there's bound to be some gems in there. One I saw that interested me was "A Warlock's Words" by Ben Ezzell, I might just give something like that a chance based on the description. I'm assuming that he's self-published but again, don't actually *know* it.

http://www.amazon.com/A-Warlock%2527s-Words/dp/B001119ZFI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=digital-text&qid=1197640513&sr=1-4

markbot
12-21-2007, 10:13 AM
94,254 as of Dec 21, 2007

95,949 as of Jan 4th, 2008

markbot
01-12-2008, 09:25 AM
96,965 as of Jan 12, 2008

lovebeta
01-14-2008, 05:32 PM
97,511 as of Jan 14, 2008.

markbot
01-30-2008, 12:40 PM
99,667 as of Jan 30, 2008

markbot
02-03-2008, 02:41 PM
99,667 as of Jan 30, 2008


100,209 as of Feb 3, 2008

JSWolf
02-03-2008, 02:54 PM
And how many of them are duplicates? I did find 9 different versions of Moby Dick as an example.

Alisa
02-04-2008, 12:54 AM
Well there are only 1974 books listed as literary fiction and they're not all classics with multiple editions so I would think a fair number fewer than 1974.

markbot
02-15-2008, 04:23 PM
105,028 as of Feb 5, 2008

107,467 as of Feb 22, 2008

109,405 as of March 3, 2008

110,686 as of March 11, 2008

markbot
03-21-2008, 03:35 PM
114,351 as of March 21, 2008

116,126 as of April 4, 2008

117,161 as of April 17, 2008

Daithi
03-21-2008, 05:41 PM
If from the main Amazon menu you select "Books" then press the GO button the browser will display a screen that has categories on the left hand side. The categories, such as Non-fiction and Literature/fiction, contain the total number of books in each category. If you add the number of Non-Fiction and Fiction books you will get a total of 4,363,865 books available on Amazon.

If you do the exact same thing under "Kindle Store" you will get a total of 107,683 books available. This means a little less than 2.5% of their books are available as Kindle books. BTW, there are over three times as many "Law" books as there are Kindle books.

I'm not trying to be negative, as I love my Kindle, but we have a long way to go in terms of making content available on the Kindle.

One thing I wish Amazon would do is to provide a conversion service for publishers. The publisher sends them a paper copy of any book that has sold more than X copies in the last year, and Amazon scans, OCRs, and converts it into an ebook format for the publisher. This would be a smart move for Amazon because it would allow them to quickly make books available, and it would get the books into the AMZ format while not making the book available in competing ebook formats. If the publishers take care of the convertion process themselves they would most likely convert their books into all available formats. Why Amazon is not offering this service is beyond me.

There is simply no reason that books like William Faulkner's The Sound and the Fury, John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath, S.E. Hinton's The Outsiders, Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird, and Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged are unavailable.

Alisa
03-21-2008, 05:51 PM
Honestly I would be shocked if the publishers didn't already have electronic copies of all their recent works. That's how they're edited these days. They would need to be reformatted for the Kindle but that doesn't take a great deal of time in the scheme of things.

mateo
03-22-2008, 11:16 PM
I don't understand why the Bestsellers list is always the exact same. ever since i've owned the device, that section has never changed.

Alisa
03-22-2008, 11:56 PM
I've had mine since November and I've seen it change quite a bit. Isn't the NYT list updated weekly. If you figure that many books spend more than one week on the list, I wouldn't expect it to alter drastically week to week.

dugbug
03-24-2008, 01:04 PM
I've had mine since November and I've seen it change quite a bit. Isn't the NYT list updated weekly. If you figure that many books spend more than one week on the list, I wouldn't expect it to alter drastically week to week.

Speaking of lists, I wish we could browse the store by lists for various literary awards and sales charts (i.e. hugo, philip k. dick, NY times, etc).

-d

Alisa
03-24-2008, 03:08 PM
That would be splendid.

markbot
04-26-2008, 05:19 PM
119,030 as of April 26, 2008

lovebeta
05-07-2008, 08:22 AM
120,537 now. Woohooo

honeybunny
05-15-2008, 09:15 AM
123,491

daffy4u
05-22-2008, 10:19 AM
124,776

daffy4u
05-27-2008, 11:51 PM
124,674

We seem to be going backward.

Edit: Okay this is weird. If I use the default "bestseller" order I get 125,323 total. If I sort the books from "low-high" in price I get 124,674.

daffy4u
06-10-2008, 12:11 AM
129,484

markbot
06-29-2008, 08:44 AM
134,145

jerryleejr
07-06-2008, 11:40 AM
Wow this reminds me of the Opening of Battle Star Galactica except those numbers are usually going down!

JJ

shima
07-13-2008, 04:33 PM
139,949 Soon they can boast 140,000 books (right now they boast the 130,000)

markbot
07-22-2008, 09:44 AM
143,922

cush
07-26-2008, 07:29 PM
146,457 on 7-26-08

Leep
07-26-2008, 07:45 PM
The "quality" may be suffering however.

JSWolf
08-03-2008, 08:01 AM
The "quality" may be suffering however.
In what way?

daffy4u
08-14-2008, 10:38 AM
154,280

markbot
08-30-2008, 10:45 AM
168,983 as of 8/30/2008

denkbert
09-04-2008, 07:24 PM
170,520 as of 9/05/2008

ktb1381
09-05-2008, 07:01 AM
170,805

denkbert
09-05-2008, 09:46 AM
171,081 as of 09/05/2008, 15:46 GMT

daffy4u
09-14-2008, 03:19 PM
173,950

rlparker
09-29-2008, 09:09 PM
181,863

2008.09.30 02:09 gmt

JSWolf
09-29-2008, 09:34 PM
How many are dupes and self-published?

daffy4u
09-29-2008, 10:37 PM
How many are dupes and self-published?

Duplicates have their own AISN number so they aren't really duplicates (same with paper versions). Self-published titles also have their own AISN.

I have found no way to separate the self-published books from those issued by publishing houses but my impression is that they are a very small percentage of the total.

You may want to send a note to Amazon and ask them.

robb01
10-02-2008, 09:58 PM
How many are dupes and self-published?

I'd like to know that as well

random50
10-03-2008, 10:11 PM
I bought the Kindle for academic books - I need a large library and will probably be moving to a different country eventually. Bit of a leap of faith as the selection is currently quite poor. Anyway, I'm going to add a couple of semi-random searches to the lists here periodically to see how the more specialized part of their library is improving (unless anyone objects...)

Currently:

Manifolds 58
"riemannian manifolds" 13
"Complex Analysis" 65

That's pretty good growth from the last time I looked if I remember correctly. Not sure how the publishers are deciding on their priorities though - the number of books available may have increased, but none of the notable gaps I noticed last time have yet been filled.

precalculus 5
"college algebra" 2

I am *amazed* at the lack of undergraduate level titles. Amazon are really missing a trick here. Or, perhaps, greedy publishers are - do they not realise that it's in their best interests to promote these formats? After all, you can't resell a Kindle book at the end of the semester.

JSWolf
10-11-2008, 02:57 PM
To be honest, since most academic eBooks are PDF, the new DR from iRex would be your best choice at the moment.

random50
10-13-2008, 11:18 PM
I may well be missing a huge ebook store somewhere (let me know if so!), but I can't say I've seen many of the titles I'd be interested in available in PDF, or indeed in any format/location other than at Amazon!

cjp
10-19-2008, 07:08 PM
How many are dupes and self-published?

Exactly! Anyone can submit "a book" and Amazon will count it in the total Kindle books available. If they were to separate the published by authentic publishers vs. self-published, I think we might see how many titles are truly available. That said, Amazon does have quite a few 'real' titles!

choklateice
10-22-2008, 10:51 AM
Exactly! Anyone can submit "a book" and Amazon will count it in the total Kindle books available. If they were to separate the published by authentic publishers vs. self-published, I think we might see how many titles are truly available. That said, Amazon does have quite a few 'real' titles!


I was just about to post something similar :)

daffy4u
10-28-2008, 05:09 PM
191,734

I just noticed that when I order the books from "low to high" pricing in the Kindle Store, nearly all of those very cheap (mostly porn-ish) titles have been removed. Less expensive classics are now showing up on page 2 instead of page 100 and something. I know people have been complaining about these titles and asking that they be separated out from the more normal titles. Looks like Amazon has listened.

jxh11215
10-29-2008, 02:43 PM
I was on a Kindle site today and found an article where an Amazon spokesperson indicated that they realize the value of an ereader for students.
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/amazon/archives/146874.asp

daffy4u
11-04-2008, 10:13 PM
194,830

daffy4u
11-17-2008, 08:07 PM
200,087

kheber
11-21-2008, 01:43 PM
202,097

daffy4u
11-30-2008, 01:15 PM
204,751

cynoclast
12-10-2008, 02:38 PM
There are currently 91,626 books available in Amazon for the Kindle as of today.

Let's track it and see how often Amazon updates/adds new books...might be interesting.

So...let's post when there is a change.Why not include the count and timestamp of the last update in the thread title?

lovebeta
12-28-2008, 02:18 PM
216,441

markbot
01-25-2009, 09:20 AM
229,094

1/25/2009

NavyDad6
02-10-2009, 08:43 PM
Where are your numbers coming from?

If you look at the Kindle book store it displays: Showing 1 - 12 of 236,938 Results.

But I think there are multiple entries for the same book. Such as Uncle Tom's Cabin, it has 24 entries with a price ranging from $0.00 to $13.19.

pshrynk
02-11-2009, 12:42 PM
The numbers are from the same source as you are citing. We have been saying for quite some time around here that the numbers are inflated with the same sort of things that you talk about in your post.


Btw, if you get your Public Domain books here, they are consistently better than those you get at Amazon. Our posters are much more conscientious about getting it right.

NavyDad6
02-11-2009, 06:38 PM
Btw, if you get your Public Domain books here, they are consistently better than those you get at Amazon. Our posters are much more conscientious about getting it right.

I have heard that. Once I get my Kindle I will surely checkout what is offered. I will probably need some hand-holding until I figure out how to get the Public Domain books transferred successfully.

lovebeta
02-21-2009, 06:48 PM
240,149

kguthrie
02-23-2009, 03:11 PM
240,149
Wow, I'm impressed by how fast the library is growing. How many books do you think will be there at the end of the year? http://g09k0221lebj272.imageshacknow.info/img/3036/p09p0222gpxf/anim_27.gif

NavyDad6
02-23-2009, 04:04 PM
Wow, I'm impressed by how fast the library is growing. How many books do you think will be there at the end of the year? http://g09k0221lebj272.imageshacknow.info/img/3036/p09p0222gpxf/anim_27.gif

Well if you take the last 2 data points and extrapolate you would get around 330,000 books at the end of the year.

Probably way off base though.

Mintaka
02-23-2009, 06:31 PM
240,509

sirbruce
02-26-2009, 02:56 AM
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/979/kindlebooks.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

NormHart
02-26-2009, 08:15 PM
Yipes,

That's looking like half a million by years end!!!

:eek:

sirbruce
02-26-2009, 08:51 PM
Well that's a simple ploynomial fit, and it's entirely possible a linear trend is more realistic. That would get us to at least 300,000 by the end of year. But it's impossible to tell the difference between a polynomial and a linear trend near the beginning of the curve, so while it looks impressive, it's still speculation. :)

Mintaka
02-27-2009, 04:48 PM
241,589

lisamay
03-02-2009, 12:14 AM
How long does it take to download a book? There are so many.... wow.

daffy4u
03-02-2009, 12:38 AM
How long does it take to download a book? There are so many.... wow.

Depending on the strength of Whispernet in your area, less than a minute to a few.

Mintaka
03-02-2009, 03:19 AM
242,244

NavyDad6
03-03-2009, 06:44 PM
243,433

That is over 1,000 e-books in a day and a half. There is no way they can keep that pace up... lol.

robb01
03-03-2009, 07:57 PM
Yipes,

That's looking like half a million by years end!!!

:eek:

that would be great :D

kevindorsey
03-04-2009, 05:14 PM
Wow, that's great. The more the better.

NavyDad6
03-04-2009, 06:52 PM
244,127

NavyDad6
03-08-2009, 07:14 PM
245,230

NavyDad6
03-09-2009, 09:24 PM
247,083

NavyDad6
03-13-2009, 12:26 PM
248,349

NavyDad6
03-16-2009, 10:28 PM
249,366

damaso
03-18-2009, 12:15 PM
250,034!

kevindorsey
03-18-2009, 03:08 PM
So, +/- on date they reach 500,000 and 1mil?

sirbruce
03-18-2009, 05:23 PM
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/979/kindlebooks.jpg

By the current trend, assuming it's polynomial and not linear, they're on track for 400K - 450K in December 2009, 500K by March or April 2010, and 1M by June or July 2011.

MoboHobo
03-18-2009, 11:04 PM
Thanks for the chart. Interesting to see what the "future" will look like ... sort of.
Has anyone noticed that some books that were available in the Kindle version are no longer available.??

vivaldirules
03-19-2009, 08:39 AM
Cool. In a few years the Kindle will be writing its own ebooks just to keep up.

kyliedork
03-20-2009, 05:38 AM
no surpises when they smash million+ books

NavyDad6
03-21-2009, 05:12 PM
253,238

NavyDad6
03-25-2009, 12:39 PM
254,533

robb01
03-26-2009, 10:33 AM
So, +/- on date they reach 500,000 and 1mil?

hopefully very soon :D

NavyDad6
03-28-2009, 08:55 PM
255,220

pwjone1
03-29-2009, 03:02 PM
Seems likely that eventually Amazon will eventually run out of books to have eBooks for. The Google 500k is, after all, a lot of old books. Eventually, in the absence of making a deal with Google, will end up topping out at some point, when they run out appropriate books to digitize (coffee table books, color picture books, stuff that's a reprint or otherwise not current, etc.)

Anyone know the number of printed books for current sale on Amazon?

wallcraft
03-29-2009, 03:17 PM
Anyone know the number of printed books for current sale on Amazon? An advanced search for new printed books in English returned 1,943,710 results. Many will have multiple editions and bindings. Restricting to hardcovers returned 795,209. All conditions (not just new) and all languages returns 18,029,871 printed books.

sirbruce
03-29-2009, 03:19 PM
Anyone know the number of printed books for current sale on Amazon?

Books
Showing 1 - 12 of 26,531,262 Results

Although interestingly:

Format
Any Format
Printed Books (17,874,693)
HTML (1,120,117)
Audiobooks (646,283)
Kindle Books (118,856)
PDF (80,177)
Calendars (55,787)

So I'm not sure how it could list 26 million books but only 20 million or so under Formats. And the number of Kindle Books does not match the over 200,000 number.

NavyDad6
03-31-2009, 11:40 AM
258,078

MoboHobo
04-01-2009, 01:10 AM
Didn't Sony and Google team up recently. They have some sort of deal going on which will make like 500,000 e-books available on the Sony reader. I don't know all the details however.

NavyDad6
04-03-2009, 11:21 AM
260,358

sirbruce
04-03-2009, 11:55 AM
New chart:

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/979/kindlebooks.jpg

NavyDad6
04-07-2009, 06:32 PM
262,441

kevindorsey
04-08-2009, 01:28 PM
I need my bank account to grow this fast

Daithi
04-08-2009, 01:36 PM
Sirbruce's chart is starting to look linear.

sirbruce
04-08-2009, 03:01 PM
It's been more linear recently, that's for sure. But like I said before, it's impossible to tell a linear trend from the low end of a curve.

NavyDad6
04-09-2009, 12:05 PM
263,416

NormHart
04-17-2009, 06:15 PM
267,847

sirbruce
04-21-2009, 04:54 AM
269,391

Also, Amazon has changed their advertising from "over 250,000 books" to "over 265,000 books".

NavyDad6
04-21-2009, 03:11 PM
269,391

Also, Amazon has changed their advertising from "over 250,000 books" to "over 265,000 books".

In a few days it will be "over 270,000 books".

sirbruce
04-22-2009, 05:20 AM
270,155!

sirbruce
04-24-2009, 12:35 AM
In a few days it will be "over 270,000 books".

Yep, but they forgot to change the ALT text on the graphic. :smack:

sirbruce
04-27-2009, 11:42 PM
273,108

pboss
04-29-2009, 02:11 AM
okay I'm sold

sirbruce
05-01-2009, 01:06 AM
275,003!

sirbruce
05-01-2009, 01:09 AM
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/979/kindlebooks.jpg

NavyDad6
05-06-2009, 01:37 PM
278,362

Daithi
05-06-2009, 05:36 PM
The Kindle Store has over 275,000 titles available, but with the introduction of the Kindle DX and its support of PDF files it means that 600,000 public domain titles from Google Books just became available as well.

(Not that we should change the focus of this thread -- I'm just pointing out another rich source of books that are now available).

ChaseKR
05-08-2009, 12:14 AM
280,030 books

kiswa
05-09-2009, 04:41 PM
281,463

NavyDad6
05-13-2009, 02:05 PM
283,193

askenase13
05-15-2009, 11:26 AM
Can you tell me where you get the number of kindle books? I used to see it when I clicked on Kindle Books at Amazon, but not now. Thx.

sirbruce
05-15-2009, 11:45 AM
Can you tell me where you get the number of kindle books? I used to see it when I clicked on Kindle Books at Amazon, but not now. Thx.

Select "Kindle Store" from the Search pulldown, then click on the orange circle "Go". Look to the left for the numbers in each category.

daffy4u
05-16-2009, 12:32 AM
284,101

sirbruce
05-18-2009, 11:10 AM
285,000

pboss
05-18-2009, 12:29 PM
Changes faster than the available space in gmail.

kiswa
05-20-2009, 02:09 PM
The numbers seem contradictory.

If you go to Kindle Books and click the "All" link (lower left) the results shows "Showing 1 - 12 of 284,617 Results" (as of 1:04PM Central Time).

However, if you count the totals from each category listing on the left, you get 553,866.

And if you go by the star ratings below the category listing you get 396,843.

I'm going to assume the sidebar areas duplicate counts for their categories and just say the count is the result of searching for all Kindle Books (284,699 as of 1:09).

Also, if you just hit Refresh the number changes (up and down).

sirbruce
05-20-2009, 02:57 PM
You counted wrong because those individiaul categories are overlapping. Just add together "fiction" and "nonfiction"; that covers everything.

Yes, the number changes slightly between refreshes. I believe this is simply an aspect of how Amazon distributes its book database. It does not effect the data which accurartely shows the growth trend.

kiswa
05-21-2009, 04:42 PM
You counted wrong because those individiaul categories are overlapping. Just add together "fiction" and "nonfiction"; that covers everything.

I will assume you didn't mean that the way it sounds, because I didn't count anything wrong. All I did was add up numbers provided by Amazon - which I thought was clear in my previous post.

Even using your method, the numbers don't match. For example, adding only those two categories you get 285,010 and the "Results" count shows 287,365.

Now, I'll admit the difference between those numbers is probably not statistically significant. I just wanted to point out something I thought was unusual. I expected others to say things like, 'yeah, I noticed that too... it's odd' or something along those lines.

And there's still the matter of the "Avg. Customer Review" section that totals to 399,918. Again, I'm assuming there's an overlap in Amazon's counting of titles that causes that.

Any future post I make in here will only be the number you get above the list of books after going to amazon.com and choosing Books > Kindle Books, then clicking "All Kindle Books".

That number is currently 287,371.

lovebeta
05-28-2009, 01:07 AM
291,513

sirbruce
05-28-2009, 06:33 AM
New chart. All data points post-Kindle 2 launch are matching the predicted curve very well.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/979/kindlebooks.jpg

sirbruce
05-29-2009, 11:16 AM
The trend is accelerating:
294,672

NormHart
05-31-2009, 11:21 AM
As predicted by the curve or more so?
:blink:

295,174

Sci-Fi 6,985

sirbruce
05-31-2009, 02:16 PM
It was following the curve well but there was a 2.5K or so jump on the 29th.

sirbruce
06-03-2009, 04:37 PM
297,331

sirbruce
06-05-2009, 09:00 AM
We've passed 300K! The trend the past few days has been way faster than predicted.

300,955

NormHart
06-05-2009, 09:09 PM
Science Fiction = 7057!

I wonder if this surge is caused by new publishers jumping on board or if it reflects some increased automation of the ebook publishing process?

Or both?
:beer:

lovebeta
06-06-2009, 01:52 AM
We've passed 300K! The trend the past few days has been way faster than predicted.

300,955

Maybe they are adding more DX compatible books?

sirbruce
06-06-2009, 03:39 PM
302,074 earlier this morning. Since early June the trend went from about ~600 per day to over 1,000 per day.

NormHart
06-11-2009, 12:52 PM
304,947

Sci-Fi =7,417

Slowing down or is it my imagination?

:toff:

sirbruce
06-11-2009, 02:06 PM
Back down to ~600 per day but the overall trend is still accelerating.

sirbruce
06-15-2009, 08:33 PM
305,809

Less than 1,000 new books in the past 4 days; making up for the sudden increase the previous week?

JSWolf
06-15-2009, 09:06 PM
I think it has to do with more people self-publishing. Now what would the actual numbers be without all the self-published eBooks?

sirbruce
06-15-2009, 10:05 PM
I think it has to do with more people self-publishing. Now what would the actual numbers be without all the self-published eBooks?

What would the actual numbers be without all the self-published POD regular books? Those numbers are just as flawed as ebook numbers.

sirbruce
06-17-2009, 07:45 PM
307,000!

sirbruce
06-17-2009, 07:46 PM
And a new chart:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5568/kindlebooks.png

kevindorsey
06-18-2009, 04:11 PM
Nice, half a mil is getting close.

F1Wild
06-23-2009, 07:21 AM
I like that the website asks if I would send the publisher of a book I'd like to please offer it in the Kindle edition.

NormHart
06-23-2009, 08:16 PM
309,430

Sci-Fi = 7,350

:2thumbsup

Roseburst
06-25-2009, 04:18 PM
I appreciate this. Exciting to watch. Just wondering how this compares to the total number of hard copy books on amazon.com? I heard there were around 3 million or so listed. But that may have been a rumor.

sirbruce
06-25-2009, 05:29 PM
Amazon has something like 30 million books listed. But remember that the vast majority of these are NOT in print; they're just placeholders for selling used copies.

Daithi
06-29-2009, 04:58 PM
312,560

markbot
07-05-2009, 09:51 PM
314,742

NormHart
07-09-2009, 07:49 PM
Ummm, this is unexpected, did I miss something?

All Kindle books 294,606

Science Fiction 6,796

:help:

pshrynk
07-10-2009, 09:43 AM
321,615 as of this morning.

poohbear_nc
07-10-2009, 10:09 AM
Where's sirbruce - no posts recently - here (with his graph) - or elsewhere?

Daithi
07-13-2009, 05:26 PM
332,186

sirbruce???

Daithi
07-16-2009, 11:48 AM
321,966 -- they lost 10,000 books.

pshrynk
07-16-2009, 01:21 PM
Dang! They were just here! What happened to them? Lose my own head next...

pshrynk
07-16-2009, 01:23 PM
SirBruce has been around, just not posting. Probably that old bugaboo, RL interfering with his MR time...

poohbear_nc
07-20-2009, 10:04 AM
325,572

clarknova
07-27-2009, 08:20 AM
330,975

Daithi
07-30-2009, 05:51 PM
335,884

poohbear_nc
08-03-2009, 10:53 AM
339,447

Daithi
08-07-2009, 05:46 PM
334,971 <-- lost nearly 5,000 books since Poohbear posted.

poohbear_nc
08-08-2009, 01:28 PM
334,971 <-- lost nearly 5,000 books since Poohbear posted.

Whas' up? :blink: :eek:

Today = 335,542

pshrynk
08-08-2009, 01:31 PM
My guess would be that Amazon is actually cleaning up the illegal posts a bit so every now and then the number drops. That, or they get rid of duplicate offerings. Who knows, really, since they are a closed system...

poohbear_nc
08-09-2009, 12:19 PM
336,198 - they're coming back?

poohbear_nc
08-12-2009, 06:16 PM
338,758

poohbear_nc
08-16-2009, 03:07 PM
345,582

Today: 347,077
Apparently, some of this increase is due to pirated editions that were uploaded beginning on the 14th. Amazon is now removing their listings.

NavyDad6
08-21-2009, 12:14 PM
346,363... slipping...

Daithi
08-21-2009, 04:07 PM
346,363... slipping...

Maybe removing Harry Potter and other books posted by people without legitimate rights to those books?

Daithi
08-25-2009, 07:46 PM
350,091

poohbear_nc
08-27-2009, 09:08 AM
348,952

poohbear_nc
09-01-2009, 11:55 AM
350,238

poohbear_nc
09-07-2009, 10:13 AM
351,437

poohbear_nc
09-12-2009, 10:15 AM
354,133

poohbear_nc
09-18-2009, 11:10 AM
355,467

poohbear_nc
09-24-2009, 11:27 AM
356,188

poohbear_nc
09-28-2009, 09:49 AM
357,724

seem to be stuck in the 350's - maybe the result of weeding out multiple versions of PD texts

kevindorsey
09-28-2009, 06:37 PM
Wow, I thought we would be past half a mil mark by now.

poohbear_nc
09-30-2009, 03:17 PM
342,576 going down again

poohbear_nc
10-02-2009, 02:27 PM
343,725

pshrynk
10-02-2009, 02:45 PM
This makes you wonder just how much "junk" there is with dupes of PD books out there.

poohbear_nc
10-02-2009, 04:40 PM
This makes you wonder just how much "junk" there is with dupes of PD books out there.

Just look, for ex., at Edgar Rice Burroughs, Jane Austen, or Charles Dickens - the number of PD versions is vertiginous! :eek:

Blog Kindle
10-04-2009, 12:51 AM
FYI... I keep the count on a daily basis and publish it every month on my blog (http://blogkindle.com/category/kindle-book-count/).

poohbear_nc
10-07-2009, 01:40 PM
358,865

tejohn
10-07-2009, 08:15 PM
i just found out about amazon a few days ago http://image-h0ster.info/picserver245/images/smilie.gif and I can't believe the amount of books it has!

poohbear_nc
10-09-2009, 10:23 AM
359,829

Daithi
10-13-2009, 07:36 PM
361,955

NavyDad6
10-15-2009, 04:03 PM
363,406

poohbear_nc
10-20-2009, 07:38 PM
365,120

NavyDad6
10-25-2009, 05:23 PM
366,749

clarknova
11-02-2009, 04:40 AM
368,851

NavyDad6
11-10-2009, 11:22 AM
373,264

kevindorsey
11-10-2009, 04:03 PM
A lot slower lately.

poohbear_nc
11-13-2009, 01:17 PM
376,522

poohbear_nc
11-16-2009, 12:47 PM
377.677

poohbear_nc
11-19-2009, 02:15 PM
380,490

Daithi
11-23-2009, 09:58 AM
Today is the anniversary of the first post made to this thread. On 11-23-2007 there were 91,626 books available in Amazon for the Kindle. A year later, on 11-21-2008 there were 202,097. Today it is 381,982. Next year I predict it will be well over half a million.

poohbear_nc
11-23-2009, 12:31 PM
Today is the anniversary of the first post made to this thread. On 11-23-2007 there were 91,626 books available in Amazon for the Kindle. A year later, on 11-21-2008 there were 202,097. Today it is 381,982. Next year I predict it will be well over half a million.

I second that prediction. Even if textbooks fail to thrive. :2thumbsup

poohbear_nc
11-29-2009, 10:36 AM
383,826

markbot
12-07-2009, 03:59 PM
Still haven't broken 400k? Amazon needs to start publishing the out of copyright books itself. Could push it over 600K over night.

Daithi
12-07-2009, 04:07 PM
388,110

Salinger
12-10-2009, 12:26 AM
I wonder has anyone done similar tracking for the Canadian Kindle store?

I'm in the decision process right now, and one of the reasons I was hesitant about getting the Kindle is because several of the books I initially did a search for, weren't available in Canada but were in the US store.

When Amazon first started selling Kindles to Canadians they used the promotional phrase "over 300,000 books available".

That was just what, about 3 weeks ago. Now that phrase has been replaced with "over 310,000 books available" and I just checked and the number is 314,291.

If they have truly added over 10,000 books in just the few weeks since its release, then likely, the books I want but aren't showing yet will likely turn up before too long. ...it's getting tougher to not get a Kindle. :)

poohbear_nc
12-11-2009, 01:19 PM
390,909

Daithi
12-11-2009, 02:46 PM
400,000 by Christmas?

poohbear_nc
12-11-2009, 03:31 PM
400,000 by Christmas?

A lot of this recent growth in number has been the addition of "Pre-Order" titles- now through March or April 2010.

kevindorsey
12-13-2009, 04:18 PM
But overall there has been a slowdown.

t-town
12-15-2009, 03:45 AM
Europe: 318,594

NavyDad6
12-15-2009, 11:49 AM
393,179

NavyDad6
12-21-2009, 11:38 AM
396,053

NavyDad6
12-21-2009, 11:39 AM
It is going to be close... not sure if we will hit 400K by Christmas. By New Year for sure.

poohbear_nc
12-21-2009, 04:13 PM
If they keep adding short stories to the SciFi catagory at the current rate, it could top 400K by New Year.

poohbear_nc
12-25-2009, 01:48 PM
399,159 - almost there! To 400K!

poohbear_nc
12-29-2009, 07:59 AM
400,021 - for USA buyers :2thumbsup

pshrynk
12-29-2009, 09:54 AM
400,021 - for USA buyers :2thumbsup
Woo Hoo!:thumbsup:

poohbear_nc
01-06-2010, 08:05 AM
404,221

Boy are they loading up the SciFi section with individual short stories - helps to skew the numbers a bit.

poohbear_nc
01-08-2010, 08:35 AM
405,553 - now being padded by "pre-orders" into August 2010.

poohbear_nc
01-20-2010, 02:39 PM
411,539

Daithi
01-20-2010, 03:17 PM
Any guesses for when we hit 500,000?

I am going to say July 1st.

poohbear_nc
01-20-2010, 03:54 PM
Pre-orders & short stories published individually (esp in Sci Fi) are driving up the numbers rapidly. The newly announced 70% royalty offer may accelerate book numbers as well. Your guess may be on target.

kevindorsey
01-25-2010, 01:32 PM
Any guesses for when we hit 500,000?

I am going to say July 1st.

That seems reasonable.

poohbear_nc
01-26-2010, 12:00 PM
414,663

poohbear_nc
02-02-2010, 01:45 PM
415,499

Daithi
02-02-2010, 08:49 PM
I wonder if our running total took a hit with the removal of the Macmillan books (I don't think they have been added back yet).

poohbear_nc
02-08-2010, 09:07 AM
424,467

Macmillans are back

kevindorsey
02-08-2010, 08:36 PM
424,467

Macmillans are back

They sure are :2thumbsup

poohbear_nc
02-11-2010, 01:13 PM
426,949

Scott Nicholson
02-15-2010, 10:03 AM
I predict one million when the royalty rate hits 70 percent, including some huge authors going out on their own...

Scott Nicholson
http://hauntedcomputerbooks.blogspot.com

poohbear_nc
02-16-2010, 09:51 AM
440,460