http://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle/Kindle_src.1.0.0.286.tar (72MB)

can we do anything with it?

;)

I assume that is just the OS source code released under the GPL? Or is it the real-deal, expect a letter from Amazon lawyers for DLing it it source code?

It's probably just the Linux kernel, same deal as with Sony Reader.

I assume that is just the OS source code released under the GPL?

Yes, it is.

Content:

binutils-2.16.1.tar .bz2 12,994,938
gcc-3.4.2.tar .bz2 28,464,285
uClibc-0.9.27.tar .bz2 1,713,970
u-boot-1.1.2.tar .bz2 2,338,199
linux-2.6.10-lab126.tar .bz2 19,614,444
alsa-utils-1.0.6.tar .bz2 147,327
bsdiff-4.3.tar .bz2 5,934
bzip2-1.0.3.tar .bz2 337,610
busybox-1.01.tar .bz2 957,674
dosfstools-2.11.tar .bz2 55,917
e2fsprogs-1.38.tar .bz2 3,180,962
module-init-tools-3.1.tar .bz2 122,787
ppp-2.4.4b1.tar .bz2 519,943
procps-3.2.7.tar .bz2 230,283
util-linux-2.12.tar .bz2 22,224
alsa-lib-1.0.6.tar .bz2 630,413
freetype-2.1.10.tar .bz2 1,033,031
jpeg-6b.tar .bz2 556,442
ncurses-5.4.tar .bz2 1,570,158
libpng-1.2.8.tar .bz2 405,603
taglib-1.4.tar .bz2 517,186
zlib-1.2.3.tar .bz2 422,377

May I ask you where you got the link?
BTW, here's copyright page from the manual:

Patent Notices

The Kindle device and/or methods used in association with the Kindle device may be covered by one or more patents or pending patent applications. MPEG Layer-3 audio decoding technology licensed from Fraunhofer IIS and Thomson.

Trademark Notices

Amazon, Amazon.com, Kindle, Whispernet, 1-Click, Mobipocket and the AmazonKindle logo are trademarks or registered trademarks of Amazon Technologies, Inc. or its affiliates.
Java and all Java based trademarks and logos are trademarks or registered trademarks of Sun Microsystems, Inc. in the U.S. and other countries.
Caecilia and Neue Helvetica are trademarks of Linotype GmbH, which may be registered in certain jurisdictions.
Microsoft is either a trademark or a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or other countries.
ACCESS is a trademark or registered trademark of ACCESS Co., Ltd. in Japan and other countries.
iTunes and Macintosh are trademarks or registered trademarks of Apple Inc. in the United States and/or other countries.
Adobe is either a registered trademark or a trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or other countries.
AudibleReady and Audible are trademarks or registered trademarks of Audible Inc. in the United States and/or other countries.

Copyright Notices

© 2004-2007 Amazon Technologies, Inc. or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
NF Browser v3.3
© 1996 2006 ACCESS Co., Ltd. ACCESS is a trademark or registered trademark of ACCESS Co., Ltd. in Japan and other countries.
AudibleReady Playback SDK v. 2.0
© 1997 2006 Audible, Inc.
All other brands, product names, company names, trademarks, and service marks are the properties of their respective owners.
From this I can guess:
1) The web browser is NetFront (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NetFront).
2) There is a JVM inside.
3) Either the Mobi reader implemented in Java or (less likely IMO) web browser supports Java.

May I ask you where you got the link?

Sure, np.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200203720

Thanks!
Now, did you happen to see a firmware updater anywhere?

Thanks!
Now, did you happen to see a firmware updater anywhere?

:D

Somehow I believe the firmware upgrade will happen OTA, given all that Whispernet talk.

Displaying my ignorance again: "OTA"?

OTA = Over the Air

Thank you, Nate! :nice: Sometimes I just can't keep up with all the TLAs and AOFLs.

Also note that the license agreement says you agree to let Amazon automagically update the software in your Kindle whenever they feel like it.

Z.

Also note that the license agreement says you agree to let Amazon automagically update the software in your Kindle whenever they feel like it.

Can they legally do that? After all, you paid the money and it's your Kindle device. You alone should be allowed to decide whether or not to upgrade the software (after all, a change in software can change the functionality of the device).

Kindle plays MP3s only in shuffle mode. Assuming we can patch the OS, do you see anything in here that looks like it's being used to play MP3s? I am not sure alsaplay can play mp3s. Don't see anything obvious yet.

My Kindle won't be here till December. Hoping we can fix a few obvious bugs being advertised as features. You've got a device with Linux on it that's online 24/7, it shouldn't be hard to do many cool things with it.

Kindle plays MP3s only in shuffle mode. Assuming we can patch the OS, do you see anything in here that looks like it's being used to play MP3s? I am not sure alsaplay can play mp3s. Don't see anything obvious yet.

My Kindle won't be here till December. Hoping we can fix a few obvious bugs being advertised as features. You've got a device with Linux on it that's online 24/7, it shouldn't be hard to do many cool things with it.

Patching the OS wouldn't change this. You would need to patch the application that is doing the MP3 playing.

It looks like Audible is only a foreground application so you can't read a book while listening to it. Too bad for those using the device to pick up a second language.

Dale

DaleDe: Indeed. I meant to say as long as we can get shell access to be able to patch the application.

Regarding the music player being a foreground app, everything I have read suggests that it is actually a background music player but can only play songs on the shuffle. For e.g.: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139810-c,wireless/article.html

DaleDe: Indeed. I meant to say as long as we can get shell access to be able to patch the application.

Regarding the music player being a foreground app, everything I have read suggests that it is actually a background music player but can only play songs on the shuffle. For e.g.: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139810-c,wireless/article.html

do you know the difference between the Mp3 player and the audible application?
check http://www.audible.com

Dale

I did not. Since I was talking about the mp3 player I assumed you were referring to the same.

I did not. Since I was talking about the mp3 player I assumed you were referring to the same.

Sorry, I started a new paragraph so I thought I could enter a related subject. Both are sound and books are available in both formats and neither format really leads to being able to sync the audio to the reading (for different reasons)

Dale

Sorry, I started a new paragraph so I thought I could enter a related subject. Both are sound and books are available in both formats and neither format really leads to being able to sync the audio to the reading (for different reasons)

DaleI thought you might be interested in a vapor-ware company which has software to automatically sync audio and text: www.automaticsync.com/lipsync/products_eBS.html

Vincent

I thought you might be interested in a vapor-ware company which has software to automatically sync audio and text: www.automaticsync.com/lipsync/products_eBS.html

Vincent

That is very interesting. I think there is a need for such a product but why do you call it vaporware?

Dale

That is very interesting. I think there is a need for such a product but why do you call it vaporware?

DaleI called it vaporware because I saw nothing about price or ordering. I assumed that they are looking for a marketing partner.

Could be wrong. I'd like to be wrong. Let me know if you find that I'm wrong.

Vincent

I called it vaporware because I saw nothing about price or ordering. I assumed that they are looking for a marketing partner.

Could be wrong. I'd like to be wrong. Let me know if you find that I'm wrong.

Vincent

It is fairly common for a design/manufacturer not to be in the retail business. I do not find this enough justification to believe it does not exist. however it would have been nice if they could have listed a dealer or two. It might be interesting to email them I suppose.

Dale