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SanAntone
11-19-2007, 10:14 AM
The Amazon Kindle website is up and it has detailed info on the Kindle along with a video.

Of note, no wireless bill! It comes prepaid and your newspapers and subscriptions are automatically downloaded.

Battery life with wireless on--2 days. Wireless off--7 days.

Free first chapter preview.

HarryT
11-19-2007, 10:15 AM
But what is the wireless technology? EVDO, or something sensible?

SanAntone
11-19-2007, 10:16 AM
They are using EVDO.

HarryT
11-19-2007, 10:19 AM
Sigh :(. What idiots. You'd think they'd learn from fiascos like the Palm VII what the perils of using proprietory wireless networks rather than international standards are.

Nate the great
11-19-2007, 10:20 AM
The product page is up.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FI73MA/ref=sa_menu_kdp3/103-5393010-8448654

SanAntone
11-19-2007, 10:21 AM
Amazon is stating that downloads of books will take less than a minute!

Nate the great
11-19-2007, 10:24 AM
Sigh :(. What idiots. You'd think they'd learn from fiascos like the Palm VII what the perils of using proprietory wireless networks rather than international standards are.

I agree. They have to replace the EVDO with something available outside the US.

tirsales
11-19-2007, 10:25 AM
It *sounds* great ... let's hope they will add UMTS/GPRS-Support and start selling this device in Europe (oh, and please add a "free wifi-acccess" there, too! I love this idea!)
And pleasepleaseplease use a normal Mobi-Format. No special Kindle! I would like to read those kindle-books on other readers too ...

vivaldirules
11-19-2007, 10:35 AM
So do I have this correct?

If you buy an ebook from Amazon the only way to get it on your Kindle is by EVDO.
If you want to read an non-Amazon ebook on your Kindle the only way to do so is to email it in the form of a Word document (no other format is supported) to your email account.
If you want to buy an ebook from Amazon and read on your non-Kindle reader you are out of luck.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

SanAntone
11-19-2007, 10:38 AM
Here are the formats supported:

Microsoft Word, HTML, TXT, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP, PRC and MOBI files

Nate the great
11-19-2007, 10:39 AM
So do I have this correct?

If you buy an ebook from Amazon the only way to get it on your Kindle is by EVDO.
If you want to read an non-Amazon ebook on your Kindle the only way to do so is to email it in the form of a Word document (no other format is supported) to your email account.
If you want to buy an ebook from Amazon and read on your non-Kindle reader you are out of luck.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

The second one is wrong (according to the Kindle homepage). You can transfer books from your computer by USB or SD card.

CommanderROR
11-19-2007, 10:41 AM
Well, I just watched that demonstration vid:

Actually, the features look great...but:
The restriction to EVDO does not agree with me since we do not have that in Germany. If they sell it with GPRS/UMTS here and with not additional charges (like they do in the US) then it's OK. I would howevr like to be able to plug it into USB or transfer books to the SD card directly. I don't know whether that will work, but I guess it should.

What I did not like was the mention of the "small fee" that amazon charges if you send something to your Kindle email address...this needs some further research...

All in all, I'd love to have one of these (with GPRS/UMTS) because it looks like a very well thought-out and easy to handle device. Questions like alternate content delivery and Battery life will have to be answered though...

da_jane
11-19-2007, 10:51 AM
The information says that each email costs $.10.

tribble
11-19-2007, 10:52 AM
You can enter an SD card. I do not know, if you need specially prepared files for the Kindle though.

Alisa
11-19-2007, 11:07 AM
You can enter an SD card. I do not know, if you need specially prepared files for the Kindle though.

Well they are calling the $0.10 a "Conversion Fee".

tribble
11-19-2007, 11:12 AM
Well they are calling the $0.10 a "Conversion Fee".

When you send documents to your kindle via email.

slayda
11-19-2007, 11:58 AM
The information says that each email costs $.10.

What about SPAM? Do you get charged $.10/each SPAM too?

SanAntone
11-19-2007, 12:02 PM
Nope. No SPAM.

You have to go to the Amazon website and enter email addresses you want to receive emails from.

Nice touch since spam would absolutely ruin this experience.

wallcraft
11-19-2007, 12:10 PM
Well they are calling the $0.10 a "Conversion Fee". The conversion is from (say) .doc to a format readable on the Kindle. if you don't want to pay the fee, then it is possible to convert to DRM-free MOBI (say) on your PC and then use USB to copy the file to your Kindle.

vivaldirules
11-19-2007, 12:13 PM
No PDF support either. You'll have to convert it yourself to DOC or HTML first as best you can. And that means, of course, no Digital Editions either. :(

Nate the great
11-19-2007, 12:20 PM
The conversion is from (say) .doc to a format readable on the Kindle. if you don't want to pay the fee, then it is possible to convert to DRM-free MOBI (say) on your PC and then use USB to copy the file to your Kindle.

You can also send that DOC file to a related email address that will convert it for you, then send it on to your home email (the one you use to login to Amazon.com).

Since it only costs $.10, does anyone want to have fun with Amazon? I want people to send me DOC files at least 200MB in size. They will lose money on each transaction.:p

CCDMan
11-19-2007, 01:11 PM
Does anyone know where I can find a coverage map for the Whispernet EVDO? Not sure it would work here....

And is that $0.10 per document or per page?

AnemicOak
11-19-2007, 01:49 PM
Does anyone know where I can find a coverage map for the Whispernet EVDO? Not sure it would work here....


Not sure unless you could use Sprint's coverage map. The device also does 1xRTT for areas that don't have EVDO.

NatCh
11-19-2007, 01:58 PM
Nope. No SPAM.

You have to go to the Amazon website and enter email addresses you want to receive emails from.

Nice touch since spam would absolutely ruin this experience.I've gotten spam on my Yahoo account that was nominally addressed from my yahoo account. I expect there will be some spamming going on no matter what.

I agree. They have to replace the EVDO with something available outside the US.One thought just occurred to me, what happens when the EVDO infrastructure is phased out in favor of something else down the line? I'm guessing there's not likely to be a way to upgrade the wireless hardware. :sad:

HarryT
11-19-2007, 02:00 PM
If they're got any sense they'll have implemented the wireless stuff as a separate plug-in module. That's a big "if", though...

CCDMan
11-19-2007, 02:39 PM
Not sure unless you could use Sprint's coverage map. The device also does 1xRTT for areas that don't have EVDO.

OK, Sprint's info map does not specify the technology. Would the EVDO in the attached map of our area be Orange and the 1xRTT be Green?

Update: I just talked to Kindle support and the above is correct.

http://nightskypictures.com/temp/Sprint.jpg

CCDMan
11-19-2007, 03:08 PM
I'm guessing there's not likely to be a way to upgrade the wireless hardware.

You are likely right. Probably would have to buy the Kindle II. OTOH, by that time we will probably have color e-ink, higher res, and all sorts of stuff that would make one want to upgrade anyway...