I'm getting a message in the notification area "Low on Application space". I was installing an .apk from Dropbox and when I touch Install I get an error "Insufficient Application Storage" and an option to Manage Applications or Cancel. I went to the App store and was able to install one via Amazon. I tried again with side-loading and I still get the same errors.

Anyone know what I can do about this?

I have 144 apps (all are very important apps that I MUST have :rofl: ). My device shows 4.39g of 6.54 available. Seems that should be plenty of space for my little 70 kb app I want to install. :blink:

I have read in another forum that the same problem has been reported by others. One suggestion was to remove several apps and then reinstall them. Someone mentioned that this fixed the problem for him/her.

I've tried that and it didn't work. I know it must be something totally simple...

You may want to see if you can find any answers in these two threads that are discussing the topic:

Amazon Customer Discussions - KF: Low on Application Space? (http://www.amazon.com/forum/kindle?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1D7SY3BVSESG&cdThread=Tx1XXF4L9V9TTM4) and KindleBoards - Running out of app space? (http://www.kindleboards.com/index.php/topic,93351.0.html). I hope that helps!

There is only 1 GB of memory on the Fire partitioned for App storage.

System files take up about 2 GB, with the remainder going for Personal Storage (App Data - not the App itself, books, music, videos etc.).

Android tablets usually have two types of memory partitions, one formatted in Linux (EXT) for Apps (normally the smaller partition - internal storage) and one formatted FAT 32 for Data Storage (normally larger partition - external storage). The 4 GB of memory free on your Fire is external storage (FAT32 partition). Android can't execute Apps off of a FAT32 partition.



The Fire only supports installing 1 GB worth of Apps. With 144 Apps installed you have almost reached the Fire's App storage limit and will need to uninstall some unnecessary Apps to be able to install other Apps.


Note: FYI only. Android 2.2 and above tablets with an SD card slot can support Apps 2 SD using an external partitioned SD card, one partition being FAT32 and the other partition EXT. The larger partition is normally FAT32 and the smaller partition is EXT. The FAT32 partition is still used for universal access of data and the EXT partition is used by Android 2.2 and above for external App storage.

There is only 1 GB of memory on the Fire partitioned for App storage.

System files take up about 2 GB, with the remainder going for Personal Storage (App Data - not the App itself, books, music, videos etc.).

Android tablets usually have two types of memory partitions, one formatted in Linux (EXT) for Apps (normally the smaller partition - internal storage) and one formatted FAT 32 for Data Storage (normally larger partition - external storage). The 4 GB of memory free on your Fire is external storage (FAT32 partition). Android can't execute Apps off of a FAT32 partition.



The Fire only supports installing 1 GB worth of Apps. With 144 Apps installed you have almost reached the Fire's App storage limit and will need to uninstall some unnecessary Apps to be able to install other Apps.


Note: FYI only. Android 2.2 and above tablets with an SD card slot can support Apps 2 SD using an external partitioned SD card, one partition being FAT32 and the other partition EXT. The larger partition is normally FAT32 and the smaller partition is EXT. The FAT32 partition is still used for universal access of data and the EXT partition is used by Android 2.2 and above for external App storage.

Couldn't of said it better myself. I haven't tried App2SD app on the Fire. I use it on my phone all the time. Another thing you can try is a cache cleaner program. I use History Eraser on the Fire from the App store. It works fine. You'd be surprise how big some of those caches gets.

Dreamwriter, I had read the info at kindleboards but not the other one. It does make me feel better knowing I'm not alone!

Obsessed, that is the best explanation yet! It makes perfect sense other than the fact I can't figure out why they would allow so little space for apps on an android device. Seems someone wasn't thinking in the production/planning meetings. I've actually deleted several apps and I still can't install any more....unless they are from the amazon app store. Now why is that?

Dreamwriter, I had read the info at kindleboards but not the other one. It does make me feel better knowing I'm not alone!

Obsessed, that is the best explanation yet! It makes perfect sense other than the fact I can't figure out why they would allow so little space for apps on an android device. Seems someone wasn't thinking in the production/planning meetings. I've actually deleted several apps and I still can't install any more....unless they are from the amazon app store. Now why is that?

Restart your Fire and try again. Try cleaning out the caches as well for more space.

I use app2sd on my phone and really like it. I'm an app ho and really like to keep them all. :)

Restart your Fire and try again. Try cleaning out the caches as well for more space.

I did that but it won't hurt to try again.

I use app2sd on my phone and really like it. I'm an app ho and really like to keep them all. :)

I can't. I have to be picky. My phone only has 256MB and with all the pre installed worthless apps only 100MB for my apps. so I only keep the ones I use. Apps2SD Pro works great in helping me keep my space down. I wish we could use it on the fire.

1 Gb for Apps...? Are you serious? I know there're some of android games do take more than 1Gb.. (like Dead space !?). So we couldn't install these games ?

1 Gb for Apps...? Are you serious? I know there're some of android games do take more than 1Gb.. (like Dead space !?). So we couldn't install these games ?

It depends on how the developer has the game data set up. Some install directly to SD Card or External memory as it's call in the Fire. I have 365MB of internal memory still which is where the apps normally go.

Success! I deleted all cache and cleared data in the appmanager...for the third time. I attempted to install again before I shut it down and it didn't work. After the shutdown it worked perfectly and the notification has disappeared. I don't really know why the previous 2 shutdowns didn't do the trick. I'm happy now that I can continue my hoarding. LOL

That's wonderful! So glad you were able to fix the problem!

I was one of the posters who got that message, deleted a couple of apps, then redownloaded and installed them, and a whole lot of others and have never received the message again.

1 Gb for Apps...? Are you serious? I know there're some of android games do take more than 1Gb.. (like Dead space !?). So we couldn't install these games ?


Dead Space works on the Kindle Fire. This was one of the first games I purchased for my son from the Amazon App Store to illustrate the power of the Kindle Fire. Oddly, the game is currently unavailable on the Amazon App Store (http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Space-Kindle-Fire-Edition/dp/B0066T0EVE), but Madden 2012 is. :blink:


1 GB is actually pretty generous because when it comes to Android Apps, most of them are on the order of a few hundred KB, with some all the way to about 15 - 20 MB. App developers that are App storage conscious will make their App installs very small and place App data in external storage instead.


To put this into perspective, only the Dead Space App is installed on the App partition in Android. The App itself only uses 316 KB of App Storage! (Settings --> More (+) --> Applications --> All Applications --> Find and Touch Dead Space). However, the game data is installed on the larger User Data (SD Card aka external storage) partition and the App fetches it from there.

Success! I deleted all cache and cleared data in the appmanager...for the third time. I attempted to install again before I shut it down and it didn't work. After the shutdown it worked perfectly and the notification has disappeared. I don't really know why the previous 2 shutdowns didn't do the trick. I'm happy now that I can continue my hoarding. LOL


This may only be a temporary fix. Clearing cache is always recommended on any OS. However, clearing App Data may have some unintended consequences depending on the App (e.g. loss of files, settings, accounts, databases and so on). For example, if you Clear Data in Documents to Go the next time you launch it you will be greeted by the registration screen, and Recent Files will be blank.

Please read the post below for a possible explanation of why it took you three shutdowns in order to clear the message and hoard another App.

Amazon did a poor job in the Fire Menu options (Settings --> More --> Device) of showing the user the storage breakdown on the Fire. If you want to get a clearer picture of your Fire's App storage including how it is being used and what you have left, I highly recommend you download a FREE App called Quick System Info Pro from the Amazon App Store.


Here is the storage breakdown from the Basic Info Tab in Quick System Info Pro:


SD card storage (aka External Storage): 5.00 GB (User and App data is stored here).



A2SD storage: 220 MB (Apps that support Apps 2 SD will be installed here if space is available).

I was surprised to find Amazon included some App storage in External Storage. If an App can do so it will automatically attempt to install itself to the "SD Card".



Internal Storage: 1.09 GB (Most Apps are installed here). When you add this to the A2SD storage the Fire actually has 1.3 GB of App storage.



System Storage: 504 MB


System cache: 252 MB


Memory: 446 MB



Quick System Info Pro will continue to run in the background after launched and will provide basic system information in the Notification Bar (e.g. CPU Usage, Memory Usage, Wi-Fi Transmit (TX) and Receive (RX) statistics and rates).


If you want to shut down Quick System Pro, in the App select the Processes Tab, find and touch Quick System Info Pro, and select End Task.


A lot of users say they have to restart their Fire many times after clearing cache in order to install an App. The reason could be because many Apps like to conveniently start themselves when your tablet starts and some may not have had an opportunity to reestablish their claim of the Fire's resources before you installed another App.

:thanks:

valuable info! I appreciate you taking the time to explain that so thoroughly. :)

Amazon did a poor job in the Fire Menu options (Settings --> More --> Device) of showing the user the storage breakdown on the Fire. If you want to get a clearer picture of your Fire's App storage including how it is being used and what you have left, I highly recommend you download a FREE App called Quick System Info Pro from the Amazon App Store.


Here is the storage breakdown from the Basic Info Tab in Quick System Info Pro:


SD card storage (aka External Storage): 5.00 GB (User and App data is stored here).



A2SD storage: 220 MB (Apps that support Apps 2 SD will be installed here if space is available).

I was surprised to find Amazon included some App storage in External Storage. If an App can do so it will automatically attempt to install itself to the "SD Card".



Internal Storage: 1.09 GB (Most Apps are installed here). When you add this to the A2SD storage the Fire actually has 1.3 GB of App storage.



System Storage: 504 MB


System cache: 252 MB


Memory: 446 MB



Quick System Info Pro will continue to run in the background after launched and will provide basic system information in the Notification Bar (e.g. CPU Usage, Memory Usage, Wi-Fi Transmit (TX) and Receive (RX) statistics and rates).


If you want to shut down Quick System Pro, in the App select the Processes Tab, find and touch Quick System Info Pro, and select End Task.


A lot of users say they have to restart their Fire many times after clearing cache in order to install an App. The reason could be because many Apps like to conveniently start themselves when your tablet starts and some may not have had an opportunity to reestablish their claim of the Fire's resources before you installed another App.


If you look under the Processes Tab of Quick System Info Pro you will likely see some Apps there that you didn't launch. To limit the amount of Apps that "launch" processes at startup and conserve even more of your Fire's valuable resources, I recommend you download an App called Startup Cleaner 2.0 (http://androiddev.orkitra.com/download/apps/?appid=5311807261174275893&download=com.bright.startup2_v2.1.0). This App allows you to control which Apps you want to allow to "launch" at startup and which ones you don't. This helps conserve system resources as well as improve startup time.

Thanks. Very good explanation. Very helpful to us Android noobies. :D

Carol

Thanks. Very good explanation. Very helpful to us Android noobies. :D

Carol

I second this! I don't have a Kindle Fire, but I'll be receiving my first Android tablet soon. Thanks for the info!

Thanks. Very good explanation. Very helpful to us Android noobies. :D

Carol


I second this! I don't have a Kindle Fire, but I'll be receiving my first Android tablet soon. Thanks for the info!


No problem. Make sure you grab a copy of Quick System Info Pro FREE from Amazon and Startup Cleaner 2.0 (http://androiddev.orkitra.com/download/apps/?appid=5311807261174275893&download=com.bright.startup2_v2.1.0) so you can keep tabs on and manage your Fire's resources.


UPDATE: Apparently Startup Cleaner will not shut down startup Apps from Amazon that are part of the Fire's default OS.

No problem. Make sure you grab a copy of Quick System Info Pro FREE from Amazon and Startup Cleaner 2.0 (http://androiddev.orkitra.com/download/apps/?appid=5311807261174275893&download=com.bright.startup2_v2.1.0) so you can keep tabs on and manage your Fire's resources.

I've been saving some of your hints for future reference cause I know in the future I'll think, 'now what was it that I was told'. :rofl:

Carol

I've been saving some of your hints for future reference cause I know in the future I'll think, 'now what was it that I was told'. :rofl:

Me too! I won't be getting my tablet until December 13th, but I've been making a list of apps and tips from these threads.

Sadly ive tried 3 times with no luck getting startup cleaner app. Unsuccessful. Every time.
I found it and successfully installed it from the 1 mobile market instead

Sadly ive tried 3 times with no luck getting startup cleaner app. Unsuccessful. Every time.
I found it and successfully installed it from the 1 mobile market instead

The link to Android Developers is valid however, a couple of other forum members, myself included, had had some problems with the website over the weekend. I checked the site this morning and it appears to be corrected. Thanks for the info on an alternate download source. Here's the link:

http://www.1mobile.com/startup-cleaner-2.0-97574.html