tcmoon
10-27-2007, 11:52 AM
Was thinking of purchasing but want to be sure I can use with library downloads. Mobipocket, Adobe are the formats & protected. Think you for your help.
Tom
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View Full Version : downloading from library? tcmoon 10-27-2007, 11:52 AM Was thinking of purchasing but want to be sure I can use with library downloads. Mobipocket, Adobe are the formats & protected. Think you for your help. Tom Adam B. 10-27-2007, 11:55 AM It can work fine with Mobipocket. I doubt it will with Adobe (unless only protected by a password) JSWolf 10-27-2007, 11:59 AM The iLiad can read PDF that are password protected? HarryT 10-27-2007, 12:00 PM I believe so, yes. Unlike the Sony Reader, the iLiad has an on-screen virtual keyboard to enter text. tcmoon 10-27-2007, 12:02 PM why not adobe? I thought mobipocket would be the hard won to get. Doesn't the iliad have adobe reader installed. If that's the case I can't spend $700.00 on this, as Adobe has a lot more books offered from the library. HarryT 10-27-2007, 12:05 PM There are different types of DRM you'll find with PDF files. Some use a simple password protection - the iLiad will handle those. Other, more complex types of PDF DRM it won't handle. It will handle DRM-protected MobiPocket files. PDF is a very poor choice for eBooks - almost anything else is preferable. tcmoon 10-27-2007, 12:12 PM True, but it can get very expensive buying the books instead of downloading from library. Not to mention convincing my wife to let me buy this & then she finds out I now have to buy the books. She will not be happy! How about the new cybook3? Thanks for your help. Tom HarryT 10-27-2007, 12:20 PM The CyBook supports MobiPocket; it will not support DRM-protected PDF. There are 10s of thousands of out-of-copyright books which can be obtained free of charge from sites such as Project Gutenberg. tcmoon 10-27-2007, 12:34 PM does sony support adobe downloads from libraries? HarryT 10-27-2007, 12:36 PM 'fraid not. nekokami 10-27-2007, 01:32 PM If you only want to read books, the iLiad is probably not the right model for you. The iLiad has a higher price because it has a pen-sensitive screen, wifi, etc. Something less expensive that supports Mobipocket is probably your best bet. As far as I know, you'll need a full version of Adobe reader to read protected PDFs, and since they don't adjust to fit the size of the screen, you'll probably need to read them on a desktop or laptop. You can probably test a PDF from your library to find out what kind of encryption it's using. Does anyone else have a non-Adobe reader to suggest that would be able to run on a PC (or Mac, etc.) that would offer the same level of support as the iLiad for password-protected files, but not the other DRM forms? daudi 10-27-2007, 03:33 PM Does anyone else have a non-Adobe reader to suggest that would be able to run on a PC (or Mac, etc.) that would offer the same level of support as the iLiad for password-protected files, but not the other DRM forms? evince on linux opens password protected PDFs. I doubt it would have DRM capabilities (but I don't know for sure). wallcraft 10-28-2007, 11:17 PM I don't have any direct experience with library e-books, but everything I have seen on the subject indicates that you will not be able to read "library" PDF's on the iLiad. These are Adobe e-books, which require just the right kind of Adobe software to read. You should be able to read the library MobiPocket e-books, but only after you register the device and only for future library e-book downloads. Assuming these work the same way as standard MobiPocket DRM, the ID's of allowed devices is encoded in the file. You should ask your library how they handle new MobiPocket devices. In this regard the iLiad is no different from (say) a new Palm Pilot with MobiPocket Reader software. If you normally connect to the library using MobiPocket's Windows Reader, the process of adding the iLiad might be completely automatic. Note that the Bookeen Cybook is cheaper and also supports MobiPocket. tribble 10-29-2007, 02:47 AM The iLiad does not support the DRM PDFs that only work on a certain computer. Neither does any other eink device on the market as of now. But the iLiad can handle password protected PDFs. If you just want to read mobipocket files, and dont need WiFi, the stylus or the larger screen, i would go for the CyBook. If your a BBeB fan, then it must be the SONY. HarryT 10-29-2007, 03:21 AM If you just want to read mobipocket files, and dont need WiFi, the stylus or the larger screen, i would go for the CyBook. If your a BBeB fan, then it must be the SONY. Having said that, the larger screen of the iLiad is VERY nice indeed. It's just a question of whether or not it's worth the extra cost over the Gen3 or Sony. mocelet 10-29-2007, 03:57 AM You should be able to read the library MobiPocket e-books, but only after you register the device and only for future library e-book downloads. Assuming these work the same way as standard MobiPocket DRM, the ID's of allowed devices is encoded in the file. You should ask your library how they handle new MobiPocket devices. My experience of buying secure Mobipocket books from Fictionwise is that if I add a new PID, or change a PID then I can download the book again and it has the new PID infomation in it, and works on the new device. I found this because I was having some issues with my mobile phone and Orange UK told me that they needed to exchange the handset to fix the problem. Other than the fact that it didn't fix the problem (Grrr) I had to reinstall all my software and so it changed my mobipocket PID. One quick edit on Fictionwise and a re-download of my secure books and everything was working OK. JSWolf 10-29-2007, 09:55 AM Of course, you could get both the 505 and the Gen3 for the best of both worlds for not much more then the cost of the iLiad. JSWolf 10-29-2007, 09:57 AM My experience of buying secure Mobipocket books from Fictionwise is that if I add a new PID, or change a PID then I can download the book again and it has the new PID infomation in it, and works on the new device. I found this because I was having some issues with my mobile phone and Orange UK told me that they needed to exchange the handset to fix the problem. Other than the fact that it didn't fix the problem (Grrr) I had to reinstall all my software and so it changed my mobipocket PID. One quick edit on Fictionwise and a re-download of my secure books and everything was working OK. If you find you are out of PIDs for your Mobi books, the solution is to download the books multiple times to keep multiple copies so you won't have to ever worry about what devices you can read them on or that the shop won't someday be there when you do want to change PIDs. HarryT 10-29-2007, 10:09 AM If you find you are out of PIDs for your Mobi books, the solution is to download the books multiple times to keep multiple copies so you won't have to ever worry about what devices you can read them on or that the shop won't someday be there when you do want to change PIDs. Sorry Jon, you've slightly lost me. How can you know what the Mobi ID will be of devices that you might acquire in the future when the shop may no longer be in business? JSWolf 10-31-2007, 02:11 AM Sorry Jon, you've slightly lost me. How can you know what the Mobi ID will be of devices that you might acquire in the future when the shop may no longer be in business? You only get so many PIDs to enter for a given book. You download that book and then can only read on the devices who's PIDs have been entered. Now you have more dvices that you could use to read with. So you go back to the site and enter the orhter PID in place of the current PIDs and download again. So you end up with multiple copies of the same book but readable on the devices you could not read the first copy with. tcmoon 11-02-2007, 08:48 AM I bought the cybook3. Thanks for all your help. Tom astra 11-02-2007, 10:15 AM Anyone tried to buy book on this site: UK iLiad (http://www.iliadreader.co.uk/products.htm)? What type format are they? Are they DRM protected? |