Will the Cybook work on OSX? I didn't see any Q/A about this when I searched, though I may have missed it.

Will the Cybook work on OSX? I didn't see any Q/A about this when I searched, though I may have missed it.

Should. If you can run Mobipocket Desktop Reader under it, you should be able to register the Cybook. I've not got a Mac to be sure, but we will be testing just that as soon as possible. Until then, it's just a guess.

Derek

Should. If you can run Mobipocket Desktop Reader under it, you should be able to register the Cybook. MobiPocket is aggressively Windows-centric on the desktop. They have no software at all for OSX or Linux. This means that you can't used MobiPocket Desktop Reader to manage your secure .mobi files (which need an ID from each device you want to read the file on encoded into the file's DRM). However, you can manually register (http://www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/DownloadManualInstall.asp) your devices. Once the .mobi (.prc) file has been generated for your device ID it is just a file and can be handled like other files.

The Cybook isn't only for DRM-infested .mobi books, and the normal way to transfer any content from any desktop machine to the Cybook is via USB - with the Cybook showing up as a USB filesystem. For some devices (I'm not sure if this will include the Cybook) MobiPocket Desktop Reader also manages the transfer of .mobi files to the device - but it isn't doing anything that can't be done manually.

Finally, some file formats that MobiPocket (not Cybook) advertises as "supported" by their reader software actually gets translated into a .mobi file by Windows-only software (MobiPocket Desktop Reader or MobiPocket Desktop Creator). In this case, third party software may be able to do an equally good job of the translation - and are your only option on non-Windows machines.

How do you find out what the PID is for your Cybook Gen3?

How do you find out what the PID is for your Cybook Gen3?

We'll find out shortly. I've got two Secure Mobipocket ebooks -1 Fictionwise purchase and 1 Mobipocket purchase - that I'm hoping to read on my Cybook as soon as I get the proper updated firmware. No, I don't know what the process is or what the status of implementing the 'register of the Cybook' is.

Sorry.

Derek

MobiPocket is aggressively Windows-centric on the desktop. They have no software at all for OSX or Linux. This means that you can't used MobiPocket Desktop Reader to manage your secure .mobi files (which need an ID from each device you want to read the file on encoded into the file's DRM). However, you can manually register (http://www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/DownloadManualInstall.asp) your devices. Once the .mobi (.prc) file has been generated for your device ID it is just a file and can be handled like other files.

The Cybook isn't only for DRM-infested .mobi books, and the normal way to transfer any content from any desktop machine to the Cybook is via USB - with the Cybook showing up as a USB filesystem. For some devices (I'm not sure if this will include the Cybook) MobiPocket Desktop Reader also manages the transfer of .mobi files to the device - but it isn't doing anything that can't be done manually.

Finally, some file formats that MobiPocket (not Cybook) advertises as "supported" by their reader software actually gets translated into a .mobi file by Windows-only software (MobiPocket Desktop Reader or MobiPocket Desktop Creator). In this case, third party software may be able to do an equally good job of the translation - and are your only option on non-Windows machines.
Ok, so since I won't be using the DRM'd "Mobi" books, but I will be using PDFs/RTF files, it sounds like the Cybook will be usable as if it were just any other USB device with storable memory (ipod, flash drive etc etc)?

Will the Cybook work on OSX? I didn't see any Q/A about this when I searched, though I may have missed it.

I believe that it just appears as a USB mass storage device. Should work fine with Mac, Linux, whatever.

We'll find out shortly. I've got two Secure Mobipocket ebooks -1 Fictionwise purchase and 1 Mobipocket purchase - that I'm hoping to read on my Cybook as soon as I get the proper updated firmware. No, I don't know what the process is or what the status of implementing the 'register of the Cybook' is.

Sorry.

Derek
So how do you purchase a MobiPocket format book now for your Cybook? Either you have to know your PID or you have to have software to allow you to make the purchase. If you are using MobiPocket Desktop for Windows, then there is a place that shows your reading devices and their PID. Plug in the Cybook and have a look and see if it shows. If it shows, then I know for sure you can use a MAC or Linux to purchase Mobi format books from some vendors at least.

So how do you purchase a MobiPocket format book now for your Cybook? Either you have to know your PID or you have to have software to allow you to make the purchase. If you are using MobiPocket Desktop for Windows, then there is a place that shows your reading devices and their PID. Plug in the Cybook and have a look and see if it shows. If it shows, then I know for sure you can use a MAC or Linux to purchase Mobi format books from some vendors at least.

Mobi haven't yet released a version of the Desktop Reader which supports the CyBook; it'll be supported in the next release.

On most versions of the MobiPocket Reader, the device ID is shown in the "Help/About" menu item. On the iLiad, the device itself generates a text file containing the ID from the MAC address.

So how do you purchase a MobiPocket format book now for your Cybook? Either you have to know your PID or you have to have software to allow you to make the purchase. If you are using MobiPocket Desktop for Windows, then there is a place that shows your reading devices and their PID. Plug in the Cybook and have a look and see if it shows. If it shows, then I know for sure you can use a MAC or Linux to purchase Mobi format books from some vendors at least.

Well... First thing is that I've already *registered* my WinPC and my Dell PocketPC with Mobi and Fictionwise. So I'm just waiting for Mobi (which I hope will happen soon) to add Cybook to its list and post a 'registration' software plugin for the Cybook.

And, yes, to answer an earlier post, the Cybook appears as a USB removable mass-storage device when I plug it in. No need to run a special application.

Derek

That's great, seems much more elegant than the Sony's required software.

Well... First thing is that I've already *registered* my WinPC and my Dell PocketPC with Mobi and Fictionwise. So I'm just waiting for Mobi (which I hope will happen soon) to add Cybook to its list and post a 'registration' software plugin for the Cybook.


Hi Derek,

Are you sure that the MobiPocket ID of the CyBook isn't displayed anywhere within the CyBook itself? That's where I would have expected to see it? It's not in a file somewhere, or on an "About" menu?

Hudsong

I have Mobipocket on a pda with OSX on my laptop. The Mobipocket PDA software told me what the PID of the device was - I then went to their website and registered it. It took as long as it takes to fill in the form to set up an account. It would be exzpect that Mobipocket on the CyBook would work in the same way. But if you're concerned why don't you contact Bookeen direct at : contact@bookeen.com

Hi Derek,

Are you sure that the MobiPocket ID of the CyBook isn't displayed anywhere within the CyBook itself? That's where I would have expected to see it? It's not in a file somewhere, or on an "About" menu?

That's a good question. The answer is "I don't know". And the reason I don't know is there is no "About" menu on the Cybook - at least not in version 0.91 of the firmware. I've gone through the files I *can* access while it's hooked up and I can't find anything like that. Of course, I'm not a Mobi 'expert' and I could be staring at it in one or two of the files without even recognizing it for what it may be.

Derek

On the iLiad the PID is in a file named Mobipocket_PID.txt in the root directory that is exported via USB. This file is created the first time the iLiad MobiPocket Reader is opened.

On the Pepper Pad 3 (running a version of the same Java-based reader as the iLiad) the PID is under the "settings" top level menu tab in the reader.

On the iLiad the PID is in a file named Mobipocket_PID.txt in the root directory that is exported via USB. This file is created the first time the iLiad MobiPocket Reader is opened.

On the Pepper Pad 3 (running a version of the same Java-based reader as the iLiad) the PID is under the "settings" top level menu tab in the reader.

Okaaaaaaaay...

No such Mobipocket_PID.txt file on my Cybook.

And what part of no 'About' is not clear? At the highest 'menu', I get a list of all user-openable files on the Cybook. There *IS* no 'settings' menu, no 'about' menu, no top-level menu for deciding between books, pictures, music or other options. As I have stated numerous times, this is version 0.91 - a beta release of the firmware. All this may well change with the firmware update.

Derek

Okaaaaaaaay...

No such Mobipocket_PID.txt file on my Cybook.

And what part of no 'About' is not clear? At the highest 'menu', I get a list of all user-openable files on the Cybook. There *IS* no 'settings' menu, no 'about' menu, no top-level menu for deciding between books, pictures, music or other options. As I have stated numerous times, this is version 0.91 - a beta release of the firmware. All this may well change with the firmware update.

Derek
How does Bookeen expect you to be able to test the Gen3 if you are unable to purchase books for it?

How does Bookeen expect you to be able to test the Gen3 if you are unable to purchase books for it?

I *can* purchase Secure Mobipocket ebooks, I just can't open them on the Cybook. However, I've got MobiReader 6 on my PC and my Axim...

Derek

I *can* purchase Secure Mobipocket ebooks, I just can't open them on the Cybook. However, I've got MobiReader 6 on my PC and my Axim...

Derek
Well, a review won't be all that great till you are able to purchase Mobi format books to use with the Gen3.

Well, a review won't be all that great till you are able to purchase Mobi format books to use with the Gen3.

I agree with you.

Derek

I agree with you.

Derek
A big part of using the reader is how hassle free it is to go online and purchase Mobi format books you can use with your device. PaperbackDigital seems to (overall) be the cheapest place to get Mobi format books with BooksOnBoard being a close follower. And to purchase books at PaperbackDigital, all you need is to tell the site what your PID(s) are/is. But if you don't have that then it's not going to work to purchase books.

You don't even need a Mobi ID to buy books from FictionWise. You just need it to download your purchased book.

You don't even need a Mobi ID to buy books from FictionWise. You just need it to download your purchased book.
How then do you read your DRM laden MobiPocket formatted book on your device if you do not have your PID for that device?

Clearly, you can't. All I was saying is that you can buy it without the MobiPocket ID. You need to enter at least one ID in order to be able to download it.

BTW, "DRM laden" strikes me as being a very strange expression. DRM is merely an encryption mechanism; it doesn't make the book any larger or "weightier", which is what the expression "laden" implies to me.

Clearly, you can't. All I was saying is that you can buy it without the MobiPocket ID. You need to enter at least one ID in order to be able to download it.

BTW, "DRM laden" strikes me as being a very strange expression. DRM is merely an encryption mechanism; it doesn't make the book any larger or "weightier", which is what the expression "laden" implies to me.

Yeah it does make it 'weightier' - in the sense of adding data NOT necessary for the primary function - reading!

Derek

It clearly makes the software which decrypts the book "weightier", but I don't believe it adds any overhead to the book itself. Most encryption methods simply substitute one character for another; they don't, generally speaking, change the number of characters in the text.

I can see DRM could be viewed as adding metaphorical weight, in the sense that it makes dealing with the book more burdensome. :shrug:

And I'd far rather type out 'DRM laden' frequently than 'DRM encumbered' which is probably more accurate, but harder to type. :grin:

Maybe 'DRM burdened?'

Let's make a verb out of it! "DRMed"!

...

No, let's not :freak: :D

DRM-blessed?
DRM-resplendent?
DRM-replete?
DRM-fulfilled?

Let's make a verb out of it! "DRMed"!

...

No, let's not :freak: :DToo late, we've been using "DRMed" around here for quite some time now. :D

DRM-blessed?
DRM-resplendent?
DRM-replete?
DRM-fulfilled?
gorged, bloated, stuffed, befouled, defiled, corrupted, desecrated, .... :grin:

DRM-blessed?
DRM-resplendent?
DRM-replete?
DRM-fulfilled?

More like:

DRM-poxed
DRM-diseased
DRM-violated
DRM-raped
DRM-slaughtered
DRM-genocided

Yes, we all *get* that you are a disciple of the Greater Orthodox Church of the Divine DRM. And we - the vast majority are constantly reminding you that we *DON'T* want to be proslytized. :D :D :D

Derek

No, I wouldn't say that I'm exactly a "fan" of DRM; it's more the case that it just doesn't bother me one way or the other, because there are very books that I re-read. Most books, I read once and know that I'll never read again, so I don't have sleepless nights worrying about whether or not I'll be able to re-read them in 20 years time.

Given the choice between DRM and non-DRM, obviously I'd go for non-DRM - I'm not quite that dumb :).

No, I wouldn't say that I'm exactly a "fan" of DRM; it's more the case that it just doesn't bother me one way or the other, because there are very books that I re-read. Most books, I read once and know that I'll never read again, so I don't have sleepless nights worrying about whether or not I'll be able to re-read them in 20 years time.

Given the choice between DRM and non-DRM, obviously I'd go for non-DRM - I'm not quite that dumb :).

Wow! I've got *average* books from 20 years ago that I re-read at least once every couple of years. Don't get me started on the number of my *favorite* titles which have worn out three and four times due to my re-reading them. :D

So, for me, as with many other bibliophiles - or so I believe -DRM *is* an issue. Besides, the basic approach of DRM is the publisher crowding into my face - after I've made the purchase - and chastizing me for being a thief out only to ruin him. Sorry, come again!?! I don't take that from any other retailer/manufacturer, so why should I tolerate it from music and book publishers?

Derek

I personally don't care about DRM as long as it's backlit. :)

I personally don't care about DRM as long as it's backlit. :)

Ave PDA! We who are about to embrace the future as represented by eInk, salute your loyalty to backlighting!!!

:D

Derek

It clearly makes the software which decrypts the book "weightier", but I don't believe it adds any overhead to the book itself. Most encryption methods simply substitute one character for another; they don't, generally speaking, change the number of characters in the text.

9/30/2006 19:05 527,861 ma.lit
527,861 bytes in 1 file and 0 dirs 528,384 bytes allocated
10/04/2007 0:05 518,083 ma2.lit
518,083 bytes in 1 file and 0 dirs 520,192 bytes allocated

With and without DRM for the same book. Not only is the DRM laden file larger but it takes more physical hard drive space. So I do think laden is a good word to use. While it may not make the text of the book any different, DRM does effect the container the book is in.

One definition of laden which fits perfectly...to put (something) on or in, as a burden. And I do think most of us feel DRM is a burden.

I will give a perfect example of why not to have DRM.

Derek is supposed to do a review of the Cybook Gen3. In order to do that review, he needs to be able to purchase MobiPocket format ebooks with DRM to show how it works on the Gen3. But he cannot. Why you ask? Well, he doesn't have the PID. No PID, no DRM books. Sounds to me like DRM is blocking Derek from being able to do what he's supposed to be able to do. If we didn't have DRM, Derek would not need to know the PID of his Gen3.

That's a ludicrous argument, Jon :). One can buy MobiPocket format books - as you well know - with or without DRM - and there's no reason in the world to suppose that the CyBook will display a book without DRM in any different manner to the way it displays them with DRM. Derek can go to FictionWise and buy any of I don't know how many thousand books in MobiPocket format if he wants to see how it does with MobiPocket files.

That's a ludicrous argument, Jon :). One can buy MobiPocket format books - as you well know - with or without DRM - and there's no reason in the world to suppose that the CyBook will display a book without DRM in any different manner to the way it displays them with DRM. Derek can go to FictionWise and buy any of I don't know how many thousand books in MobiPocket format if he wants to see how it does with MobiPocket files.

That's a ridiculous argument Harry. First, *most* of the current-release Fictionwise and Mobipocket ebooks *ARE* in Secure Mobipocket format. So only being able to read the non-secure versions would exclude the Cybook from a large market who *want* to be able read the latest ebooks, not just the older ones or the ones from the lower mid-list and back-list. Yes, I have plenty of ebooks I've run through BD using my Baen titles and I've purchased a couple of the titles offered by Fictionwise in Multiformat-choosing Mobi-and they read just fine. But the hot authors I *want* to read are all Secure Mobipocket, Secure MS Reader or secure PDF. Oops. Guess that makes me a second-class citizen.

Derek

The most likely reason for the lack of a PID is that the 0.91 firmware does not in fact support MobiPocket DRM.

If the Cybook is using MobiPocket's Java Reader, then we know it is capable of supporting DRM. It might be doing so, because I have not seen any examples of changing the line spacing or the margins - two shortcomings of the Java Reader. If the reader is instead a Bookeen developed application, then DRM support is in question.

Bookeen will obviously have to have DRM support before the Cybook is released, but I guess I am surprised that DRM is missing from the beta software.

Something else that is obviously missing is the capability to reflash the software. This would be a significant disadvantage if also true of the final device.

Sorry Derek, I think you've misunderstood me.

Jon was saying that the current inability to load DRM protected MobiPocket books is preventing you from reviewing the device. However, if I understand it correctly, the main purpose of your review is for NAEB, isn't it, and the NAEB web site makes it clear that DRM is not a part of the device specification.

Eg, point 4 of the NAEB "Mission Statement" says:

No DRM and no hidden "gotchas" what you see is what you get.

while the "Specification" page says:

On release of our version the ebook reader software will support ebooks in the following formats: RTF, HTML, PDF and PRC (Mobipocket) No DRM will be built into the software

I am a little puzzled, given this, to hear you say that the "hot authors you want to read" are all in DRM protected formats. If this is the case, why did NAEB specify a device without DRM?

BTW, forgive me if you're already aware of this, but Baen offer MobiPocket as a direct download option. No need to convert anything with BD.

I am a little puzzled, given this, to hear you say that the "hot authors you want to read" are all in DRM protected formats. If this is the case, why did NAEB specify a device without DRM?

BTW, forgive me if you're already aware of this, but Baen offer MobiPocket as a direct download option. No need to convert anything with BD.

Harry,

Clearly you don't understand. *I* favor a bunch of authors - not just those in Baen's stables. Many of those other authors *ARE* offered in Secure Mobipocket format - but not in Sony's BBeB or Hanlin's WOL. NAEB wants the ebook reader to handle non-DRM'd ebooks in some common format other than PDF, TXT or HTML. Mobi's is nice. Baen even offers the webscription ebooks in Mobi - as you pointed out. But that's not good enough - for *ME*. I am, after all, a consumer of ebooks.

As for running my Baen ebooks through BD, well, I'm not encouraging people to run 'less-than-legal' PDF or HTML downloads through BD, but there are those who will. As will there be those who have other, legal, PDF, TXT or HTML ebooks on which they'd like to be able to use Mobi dictionary and text search functions and the like. So I'm killing two birds with one stone, so to speak. Checking up on the formatting of Mobi ebooks on the Cybook and discovering the ease of converting a, shall we say, less-than-perfectly-formatted TXT file into a Mobi ebook.

Oh wow! You know, I'll bet that's exactly what customers who buy a Cybook *might* want to do! (Not all of us can be geeks, nerds and EXTREMELY EARLY ADOPTERS.)

Really, I don't know why this is a hard set of concepts for you.

Derek

The most likely reason for the lack of a PID is that the 0.91 firmware does not in fact support MobiPocket DRM.

If the Cybook is using MobiPocket's Java Reader, then we know it is capable of supporting DRM. It might be doing so, because I have not seen any examples of changing the line spacing or the margins - two shortcomings of the Java Reader. If the reader is instead a Bookeen developed application, then DRM support is in question.

Bookeen will obviously have to have DRM support before the Cybook is released, but I guess I am surprised that DRM is missing from the beta software.

Something else that is obviously missing is the capability to reflash the software. This would be a significant disadvantage if also true of the final device.

Yes, ability to display the PID is missing. No, I don't know if there's reflash capability missing or not. I *presume* that, as the SD card slot is not enabled, any update at this time will have to be done through the USB cable - but I don't know at this point.

Derek

delphidb96, you are harsh with harry, calm down, this forum isn't a hostile
place!

That's a ludicrous argument, Jon :). One can buy MobiPocket format books - as you well know - with or without DRM - and there's no reason in the world to suppose that the CyBook will display a book without DRM in any different manner to the way it displays them with DRM. Derek can go to FictionWise and buy any of I don't know how many thousand books in MobiPocket format if he wants to see how it does with MobiPocket files.

I absolutely agree with you. And there are plenty of public domain eBooks in prc format on here, and the navigation is exactly the same. The only difference is that the DRM product is encrypted and needs a key to unencrypt it. OK so it's too early to do a full review of the finished product, and I wouldn't buy a CyBook until this issue is resolved, but it must surely be possible to have some sensible comment on the CyBook instead of this one-sided relentlessly negative nitpicking.

I have to say that 'DRM nonsense' is a pretty good title for this thread. I'm sure I can't be the only person who is getting increasingly alienated from this forum by the endless ranting of the anti-DRM fanatics.

And there is surely an irony here that people seem to be quick to bash Bookeen a company that is basically a two men and a dog operation (as we'd say in Britain - it's not a derogatory term) in the name of consumer choice, and who are the main beneficiaries of all of the attacks on Bookeen? Why Sony which is the company which on its present record, and all of its past record, offers consumers the least consumer choice of any of the eBook options on the market or likely to be coming to the market in the near future. Time to get a sense of perspective?

The most likely reason for the lack of a PID is that the 0.91 firmware does not in fact support MobiPocket DRM.

If the Cybook is using MobiPocket's Java Reader, then we know it is capable of supporting DRM. It might be doing so, because I have not seen any examples of changing the line spacing or the margins - two shortcomings of the Java Reader. If the reader is instead a Bookeen developed application, then DRM support is in question.

Bookeen will obviously have to have DRM support before the Cybook is released, but I guess I am surprised that DRM is missing from the beta software.

Something else that is obviously missing is the capability to reflash the software. This would be a significant disadvantage if also true of the final device.

One way to be sure is to download any of the sample mobi format books and try to read on a different version of MobiPocket. That would prove if they have DRM or not at least in the sample books.

What "sample books" are you referring to, Jon?

For the non-techy, non-geek types, you'll find they won't want to be jumping through hoops like we are in order to get content over to some reading device. They will want to just go online, purchase the content, download it, install it, and read. I have to say, any device that doesn't allow this to happen is not going to succeed. Also, a lot of these people will want to purchase current books that won't be in Fictionwise's multi-format section. They might want the latest best seller or the latest paperback goodie from their favorite author. And how do they get these books? With DRM. You put out a reader that won't work with these books and either people won't purchase or they'll return them.

I know for myself, I can end up DRM free, but there is no way I can purchase all the books I will be reading without being DRM laden. Some I can yes, but a some I cannot. And if I didn't know how handle some of these issues, I'd be stuck having to have a device to handle the DRM.

The point is, while the goal of a device that doesn't deal with DRM is a nice idea, it's a fantasy and it won't sell well to the average person. Because for the geek market, the competition is tough. Sony, iRex, Hanlin, Amazon, Bookeen have or will have devices that are all going to be competitive in the geek market.

We have to be realistic, DRM is here, it's not going away any time soon and for a reading device to have a chance to succeed, it needs to be able to deal with on of the various flavors of DRM laden books. And right now, I see only three choices, BBeB, MobiPocket, or MS Reader. Adobe is not yet part of the game until DE is available for portable devices and there are enough books available in DE format.

Harry, I fully understand your saying that Derek can get Mobi format books that do not have DRM to use to help review the Gen3. I disagree. The Gen3 won't sell well unless he can go to some online bookshop and purchase say the latest Discworld novel and read it on his Gen3.

Harry, I fully understand your saying that Derek can get Mobi format books that do not have DRM to use to help review the Gen3. I disagree. The Gen3 won't sell well unless he can go to some online bookshop and purchase say the latest Discworld novel and read it on his Gen3.

My point was, Jon, that Derek is doing this review in his role as a member of the NAEB board, and NAEB aren't interested in DRM (it specifically says so in their Mission Statement (http://www.naebllc.com/page5.html)). Producing a review for NAEB can therefore be done without reference to DRM.

Speaking for myself, I completely agree with your sentiments. The reason I intend to buy a Gen 3 is specifically because it does support Mobipocket DRM (or at least it will by the time it's released), and I've chosen to adopt MobiPocket DRM as my favoured DRM standard specifically because doing so gives me the greatest flexibility.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think Harry's ambivalence to DRM has much to do with the fact that he owns two readers. One compatible with the Sony BBeB and the other compatible with protected Mobipocket books. His choices aren't limited like they are with those who only own one device.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think Harry's ambivalence to DRM has much to do with the fact that he owns two readers. One compatible with the Sony BBeB and the other compatible with protected Mobipocket books. His choices aren't limited like they are with those who only own one device.

No, it's not that at all. It's due to four reasons:

1. The overwhelming majority of the that books I read don't have DRM. My main reading interests are out-of-copyright classics, and SF/Fantasy. The first I get from PG, the latter from Baen, who don't use DRM.

2. The occasional "mainstream" book that I buy which does have DRM I very rarely have any urge to re-read.

3. The DRMed book I buy all use MobiPocket, who are the market leaders and have been around for many years. I have no reason to suppose that they won't be around for many years to come.

4. If I spend $10 on a book, I regard it as $10 of entertainment, not a "lifetime investment". If I did decide to re-read the book in 10 years time, and discovered that I could not longer read it, I'd spend another $10 for the pleasure of doing so. I throw away most of the paperbacks I buy (I don't have the storage space to keep them) so I'd do exactly the same with a paperback.

So, as you see, with these factors combined I really couldn't give two hoots about DRM one way or another. If a publisher decides that they really must use DRM in order to publish a book then I'd just happy to see it as an eBook. If they decide that they can publish it without DRM, that's even better. A DRMed eBook is better than no eBook at all, to my way of thinking.

4. If I spend $10 on a book, I regard it as $10 of entertainment, not a "lifetime investment". If I did decide to re-read the book in 10 years time, and discovered that I could not longer read it, I'd spend another $10 for the pleasure of doing so. I throw away most of the paperbacks I buy (I don't have the storage space to keep them) so I'd do exactly the same with a paperback.

Why don't you sell your paperbacks?

It's just not worth it. For me, my very limited amount of free time is worth more than the money I'd get for them. It's a matter of priorities.

@Wallcraft
Could you please contact me by PM (because i can't contact you by PM).

(PM and no MP sorry ;)

You mean PM I hope.

MP is the french for PM :p (message privé=private message)

And PM is the way it's said in the forum software.