Hi, I'm thinking of installing the 64 bit version of vista.

Would I have problems putting content on my Sony Reader and/or Cybook?

I don't have to do the 64 bit route, but it would be nice.

aha, I see this
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11848&highlight=bit+vista&page=2

Do I really need a usb driver if I can put the files onto the SD card directly with the card reader?

No, you certainly don't need to use "Connect" if you put the files directly on an SD card with a card reader. You would need it, though, if you wished to buy any books from the Connect Store.

Why not set up your system as dual boot 32bit/64bit? Best of both worlds, that way.

Nobody knows, AFAIK, if the CyBook has a 64-bit USB driver, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Do you have any compelling reason to use Vista 64? It seems to me to be more trouble than it's worth for a home system. Its only real benefits, as far as I can see, appear to be for applications such as very large databases where the removal of the 4GB process address space limit improves performance.

Hi, I'm thinking of installing the 64 bit version of vista.

Would I have problems putting content on my Sony Reader and/or Cybook?

I don't have to do the 64 bit route, but it would be nice.
What OS do you run now? If it's XP then keep it. If it's Vista 32-bit and it's working, keep it. You'll find no end to compatibility issues using a 64-bit Windows.

Microsoft refuses to allow unsigned drivers to run on 64-bit Vista. In other words you have to beg (and pay) them for the privilege of writing device drivers for their wonderful operating system. I suggest you get off the Microsoft train wreck ASAP.

Well, as someone who runs linux and does dual booting right now, I am certainly amenable to your messages.

Are there any commercial ebook systems where you don't need special USB drivers to put commercial content on the machine? (where presumably the validation would exist on the device and not the PC).

Are there any commercial ebook systems where you don't need special USB drivers to put commercial content on the machine? (where presumably the validation would exist on the device and not the PC).

Sure. If you have a device which uses MobiPocket, for example, you can buy content from any of the numerous web sites which sell such books, enter your device's MobiPocket ID (a hex string which acts as an encryption key) on the web site, download the book to your PC, and transfer it to your reading device via a memory card. Virtually all bookreaders support memory cards of one kind or another.

Then there are a large number of DRM-free eBooks (both free and commercial) where there's no issue - again just transfer via a memory card.

Microsoft refuses to allow unsigned drivers to run on 64-bit Vista. In other words you have to beg (and pay) them for the privilege of writing device drivers for their wonderful operating system. I suggest you get off the Microsoft train wreck ASAP.

Actually This is misinformation..
64bit is designed to be more secure so defaults to wanting signed drivers.
So you know you are getting software that is from a known source vs a trojan. Kernal mode drivers and drivers that are releated to the protected content playing in vista are the ones that need to be signed.

Here is how to disable that:
http://chris123nt.com/2007/04/28/driver-signing-in-x64/

if you are courious...
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/WindowsVista/library/ops/4bbbeaa0-f7d6-4816-8a3a-43242d71d536.mspx?mfr=true

You do not need to pay for windows logo certification to have a signed driver, you just need to get a trusted certificate from a root provider like you would for a website or email signature. The cert is not sold by microsoft.. and costs between $150-200 a year.. there may be cheaper versions.

How is it misinformation? The only part of it that's not correct is that you have to pay microsoft for the certificate, rather than a 3rd party.

And turning it off is just not an option for most users.

The problem is that Microsoft makes it too difficult to support 64-bit Windows and thus, support it poor and if you choose to run a 64-bit Windows, then you most likely WILL NOT be able to run all the software you want to or use all the hardware you want to.

So the best solution is to stick with a 32-bit Windows.

I have been using Vista x64 with my Sony PRS-505 for a while now. I haven't used the sony software myself, I think it's crap anyway. I use the Libprs500 or just drag and drop through windows explorer.

The whole issue with disabling the driver signing check, should not bother anyone either. Most people have been installing unsigned 3rd party drivers for years now, not even realizing it. Microsoft is trying to sell all their new windows intergrated security checks by feeding paranoia to the uninformed.

i tried to ask sony about the proble, thay dont replay any one has a simple soloution ?????
thanks:smack:

If you run the Sony installer from a command prompt there is an option you can use to just extract the files to a directory, then you can just put the Connect software anywhere you want. XP and Vista (both 32 and 64bit) do not need drivers for the 505. The connect software itself runs fine on Vista 64.

how i do it from a command promt ?
i didnt understand ?
please help me

I asked Sony about Windows 64bit and this was their reply (apparently Macs and 64bit are specialist and minority - I call it a lazy response):

Thank you for your recent e-mail received on xx/09/2008

Sony products will not operate with VISTA 64.

The V64 system is specialist and a minority product (like XP64 or Mac) Sony have no current plans at present to make products compatible. To obtain more detail and find out what exactly VISTA 64 is and what it is for, please see the link below:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/64bit.mspx

I am sorry for any disappointment that this response may cause.

Yours sincerely

Daniel Ayliffe
Customer Information Centre
SONY UNITED KINGDOM LTD

If there is option of SD card then you don't need any specific drivers in order to upload files to the device. The issues start in case they require to register their device using their software.
About the OSes now and what is best for everyone, one OS doesn't fit everything. One reason to move on to 64bit is requirements for more memory (example, on this one I use Vista64 with 8GiB).
The Hanlin/lbook/bebook doesn't require drivers, it's plug&play, connect via USB or use the including SD reader & transfer files.

The V64 system is specialist and a minority product (like XP64 or Mac) Sony have no current plans at present to make products compatible. To obtain more detail and find out what exactly VISTA 64 is and what it is for, please see the link below:


This is so not true. They should open a recent Best Buy flier and take a look at how many of those commodity laptops and desktops are shipping with Visa 64-bit. Looks like about 40%-50% to me. Also, Mac's are about 10% of current PC sales these days, in the US at least. I think Sony better get cracking. Heck, a 64-bit windows driver isn't much different than a 32-bit one code wise.

BOb

Nobody knows, AFAIK, if the CyBook has a 64-bit USB driver, but I wouldn't bet on it.

I don't think it needs it. It presents itself to the computer as a standard USB Mass Storage device, and any OS that can handle those should be able to work with it. My Linux box certainly does.

I don't think it needs it. It presents itself to the computer as a standard USB Mass Storage device, and any OS that can handle those should be able to work with it. My Linux box certainly does.

`Same with the BeBook, works without problems on 64-bit Vista, just comes up as a USB MSD and no problems copying books to it at all.

I don't think it needs it. It presents itself to the computer as a standard USB Mass Storage device, and any OS that can handle those should be able to work with it. My Linux box certainly does.

Absolutely correct - the CyBook just mounts as two "USB Mass Storage" devices (one for the internal disk partition, the other for the SD card), and will work with any o/s.

The only real advantage I can see to Sony's eBook Library software is that I can organize my books into collections. So far as I've been able to find out thus far, there doesn't appear to be a way to do this when copying the files directly to the internal memory or to memory cards, but maybe I've missed something. There's gotta be a file or something that tells the 505 that a collection exists and which books are part of that collection. Anybody have an idea on how I might be able to do this handraulicly? If it's just a matter of making entries in some onboard file, it'd make life so much easier.

Thanks,
Dan Payment
dpayment@hotmail.com :help:

Calibre can create collections.

Microsoft refuses to allow unsigned drivers to run on 64-bit Vista. In other words you have to beg (and pay) them for the privilege of writing device drivers for their wonderful operating system. I suggest you get off the Microsoft train wreck ASAP.

Microsoft have been criticised for years for valuing backwards compatibility over security. Now they've made it hard for applications which violate guidelines (which have been in place for a long time) to run without either the UAC prompt appearing, or, in the case of the x64 OS versions, without the drivers (which, after all, are code running with the highest privileges) being signed. This gives increased stability and security, at a cost. You pay your money and you make your choice....

The problem is that Microsoft makes it too difficult to support 64-bit Windows and thus, support it poor and if you choose to run a 64-bit Windows, then you most likely WILL NOT be able to run all the software you want to or use all the hardware you want to.

So the best solution is to stick with a 32-bit Windows.

I have five PCs in the house - three running 32-bit Vista, one running 64-bit Windows 2008 Server (and, via vmware, gentoo linux), and one running 64-bit Vista.

I've had very very few compatibility problems with the x64 operating systems. I've had none so far that haven't been easily to resolve. I came here because I had a problem installing the sony PRS-505 software - I didn't realise it's a x64 bit issue. I'm sure it'll be easy to resolve - as another poster has said, one can disable the requirement for driver signing.

In terms of the advantages of x64 Vista - it's definitely more stable. I don't mean that it crashes less often, but that there are a few oddities (which I've seen on many Vista x86 boxes) which simply don't occur on the x64 version (deleted files occasionally still appearing in folders until after a reboot, even though they're not really there etc.). In terms of performance, I don't see any significant difference really.

Microsoft have been criticised for years for valuing backwards compatibility over security. Now they've made it hard for applications which violate guidelines (which have been in place for a long time) to run without either the UAC prompt appearing, or, in the case of the x64 OS versions, without the drivers (which, after all, are code running with the highest privileges) being signed. This gives increased stability and security, at a cost. You pay your money and you make your choice....

Yeah and the choice is not to support the OS.

The Sony Library 2.5 now works with the Vista 64 system. I have it loaded No problems.