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Penru
04-28-2011, 12:41 PM
I am thinking about buying an edge pocket, was just wondering what cool accessories I can get for it. can I buy a second battery (can I even change the battery?) what kind of cases are there for them?

also

what are some apps that are considered "MUST HAVE"

5thWiggle
04-28-2011, 01:18 PM
The batteries in the Pocket Edge are not replacable*, just like in about 99% of the devices nowadays. As for cases, also a bit hard to find. I took mine to about 4 different store and eventually settled on a Targus case ment for a 10" netbook. My newly aquired "Man Purse" (or murse :rolleyes:) is a bit big just for the PE, but holds the charger, cables, my ipod etc. as well.
"Must Have" apps are a personal choice, I find. Mine are:

Note everything - uber note app
Tag ToDo - todo list (with tags! natch)
Thinking Space - mind mapping
Shortyz - crossword puzzles
cool reader - ebooks on the LCD side (for nighttime :D)
stopwatch - self explanatory
250+ Solitaire collection - also self explanatory
Form Builder - simple database, no encryption but export with CSV.

*my Palm TE2 had a non-replacable battery as well, but when it died I figured out how to crack the case and change the battery. I found a battery the same size and specs in the internet. The TE2 survived the operation and lived another year and a half until it meet an unfortunate end by falling in a toilet.....

obsessed2
04-29-2011, 08:15 PM
Accessories are a little hard to find but here are some suggestions:

Best Buy sells a couple of cases that fit like a glove but you can't put your charger in with the Pocket Edge.

The Rocket Fish Model: RF-LYCB01

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=-2409142137440075081&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=RF-LYCB01&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960


Platinum Series - Case for Most 7" Tablet Mobile Phones

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=-2409142137440075081&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Platinum+Series+-+Case+for+Most+7%22+Tablet+Mobile+Phones+&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960


Body Glove makes a E-Reader Travel Hard Shell Case (1.8 x 6.5 x 9.8 inches)

http://www.amazon.com/Body-Glove-Reader-Travel-9112601/dp/B003UYU42C


The stylus that comes with the Pocket Edge is pretty good but if you are going to do a lot of writing using the Journal App you might want to consider a Motion Computing LE1600 & LS800 SERIES Digitizer Pen. The LE1600 is a full size pen and the stock stylus just can't comptete with the writing experience of the Motion Computing Pen. A little pricey but, if you are going to take a lot of notes it is definitely worth the price.

http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1433829


Decal Girl has some cool skins for the Pocket Edge. Recommend the matte versions for $5 more because they resist fingerprints pretty well.

http://www.decalgirl.com/category.view/enTourage-Pocket-eDGe-Skins


My favorite Apps include:

Amazon App Store App

Amazon Kindle App

Nook Android App (Books from Barnes and Noble can be read on e-Ink side)

Maple Paint

DailyStrip Comic Strip Viewer

Andy-86 (TI-86 emulator)

Voice Search by Google

Talk to Me Cloud: Real-time speech to speech translator for Android.

ezPDF Reader

Knuddel's Mini Golf

Pool Rebel Light

Anniversary of the Day

Basketball Shot and Basketball Shot II (Amazon App Store)

Quick System Info Pro (Amazon App Store)


Best Android App Websites With Lots of Free Apps:

*** Be Aware That The Pocket Edge Does Not Have Access To The Android Market ***


http://slideme.org/en

http://www.freewarelovers.com/

http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b?ie=UTF8&node=2350149011

http://andappstore.com/AndroidApplications/


As of today the Pocket edge does not support Flash Player but includes a very nice You Tube Viewer. There are also several websites that support Flash Lite which is installed on the Pocket Edge:

Comedy Central
ESPN
Daily Motion
VH1
MTV
CMT
Vimeo
Nickelodeon
MLB (Must manually select 3gp format)
Animal Planet
American Idol
Blip TV

Last_of_the_PEs
05-05-2011, 03:30 PM
I'm hoping my USB barcode reader works with it (when I get it). Having something that small that I can use as a data accumulator would be SWEET!

I'm hopeful because on all PCs it looks like a "human interface device" and emulates a keyboard, and if keyboards work, this should too.

From the posts here and on entourageedge.com, I'm assuming it won't drive a USB arc welder.:)

Filark
05-05-2011, 05:56 PM
I'd like to know if your barcode scanner works with PE, Last! I believe using the built-in camera as a barcode scanner does not work. Maybe you have the solution! :)

Penru
05-06-2011, 04:47 PM
Any chance of the Pocket Edge fitting into a bible cover/case (http://cgi.ebay.com/Nylon-Camo-Bible-Cover-Army-Green-Camouflage-Book-Case-/350459302985?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5199009449) I think if it would work it would be the best case! Has an interior pen pocket (great for a full sized stylus), an outside pocket (great for the charger and/or usb drive), and most importantly using your pocket edge in church (just kidding, But I do have the bible on mine)

If this works can I has some karma, LOL

Filark
05-06-2011, 05:27 PM
Penru, there's a thread about cases on the entourageedege.com forum, and one of the best received suggestions is to use a Bible case! So definitely it can work. Just make sure of the dimensions.

Just checked your link. Looks like a good one! If anything it might be too big. I just measured my PE and got 5.5" x 7" x 1".

Go for the Karma! ;)

STL Droid
05-10-2011, 03:37 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know I just received my Penabled Wacom pen from Amazon, see link below. It was 19.99 (US). It works with the eInk side perfectly, is grey and black, better matching my PE and, best of all, fits exactly into the pen slot!

As the regular pens are not being manufactured anymore for Entourage, this is a great "back-up" pen if you are like me and leave everything in the wrong spot.

http://www.amazon.com/Penabled-Tablet-Pc-Slim-Pen/dp/B000085BD9/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1305056043&sr=8-1

Sarasuru
06-06-2011, 12:19 PM
Has anyone tried hooking up a portable keyboard? I love taking notes but have terrrrible handwriting so typing is the only way to go for me. I'm thinking portable keyboard and stand for optimum coffee shop office.

sarah11918
06-06-2011, 12:45 PM
Yes, I've had great luck with two different USB keyboards: one really old one, huge one and another sleek tiny one.

I can't remember whether people have gotten Bluetooth keyboards to work, but the selection of USB keyboards that work should be extensive. (Note: I'm on an EE, not a PE.)

emusan
06-06-2011, 12:50 PM
I think that bluetooth keyboards didn't work because the eDGe only supports bluetooth headsets(very strange for a device with no phone capability), though I may be wrong. I've seen a lot of keyboards work with the device, I think as long as it supports USB HID(99% of USB keyboards do, if not more) you should be fine. I've got one on order and it should arrive this week, I can't wait!

sarah11918
06-06-2011, 12:56 PM
Keyboards combined with the various positions the edge can take are great. Here are just a few ways I've used mine:

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz86/sarah11918/eDGe/th_d2c1f6df.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/albums/zz86/sarah11918/eDGe/?action=view&current=d2c1f6df.jpg) http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz86/sarah11918/eDGe/th_bd2cc91a.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/albums/zz86/sarah11918/eDGe/?action=view&current=bd2cc91a.jpg) http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz86/sarah11918/eDGe/th_bb17a3c8.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/albums/zz86/sarah11918/eDGe/?action=view&current=bb17a3c8.jpg)

ptsenter
06-06-2011, 02:16 PM
Barcode Scanner from Amazon does not work.
Skype doesn't work - bummer.
Pandora works!!!
TuneIn Radio works.
Keyboard like diNovo mini works fine and provides its own Bluetooth.
I found useful to have USB-to-Ethernet adapter (StarTech.com USB2106S) as some places don't have wireless network, but have wired.

glow
06-06-2011, 02:40 PM
My friend who also has a PE found that he needed to install an android app to implement the HID for the bluetooth keyboard. There may be a couple of such apps, but the one I recall him using is described here:
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.mybesttools.btkbservice
I do not immediately have a download link for this.
Note: it requires a rooted device.

ken_jennings
06-06-2011, 03:32 PM
I have a USB mini keyboard that works fine, far better than typing on screen: Solidtek KB-P3100SU (ASK-3100U) Super Mini Keyboard - USB, 4" x 9" (http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1818112&CatId=533)
http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/skuimages/large/S144-1024-Main-sp.jpg

I have tried several kinds of bluetooth keyboards and none have worked. (And still not with Ermine.) I think this is dependent on Google adding HID support for Bluetooth to Android, or on some third party hacking it for us.

glow
06-06-2011, 04:07 PM
I have tried several kinds of bluetooth keyboards and none have worked. (And still not with Ermine.) I think this is dependent on Google adding HID support for Bluetooth to Android, or on some third party hacking it for us.

Not sure you saw my preceding post? There are apps that implement that HID support.

miked1541
06-07-2011, 02:36 AM
I picked up the Pocket Edge last month from woot! and have been learning a lot from using the device and the online forums. I'm really diggin' the device!

Here is my portable setup with some of the accessories I have added:

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72419&stc=1&d=1307426938

1. Entourage Pocket Edge
2. Energizer XP8000 (Another woot! purchase. Battery is 30 watt hours)
2.5. Energizer Cable
3. Fellowes USB Stowaway Keyboard ($5.00US thrift store find, FTW!)
3.5. Stowaway Cable
4. Vogduo 4 port USB 2.0 mini hub ($1.00US clearance item, FTW!)
5. Retractable ethernet cable (no name)
6. Star Tech USB Ethernet dongle (USB2106S)
7. 5 LED USB light (no name)
8. Rothco Venturer Travel Portfolio Bag (lots of pockets!)

Even though the Rothco bag is kinda like a murse, it's more manly than others I've seen and doesn't look too bad if I wear it with the strap across my chest and the bag hanging low.

Oh, I forgot to add...usb fans will work too and can come in quite handy, especially if you can find a fan/light all in one.

If you use a USB hub, be careful about how many devices you put on there and the energy it draws. I haven't had any issues yet but I try not to have too many things attached.

All of the USB devices above work natively, so no drivers or additional software...just plug 'n play, baby!

Here is my portable workstation all setup:

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72420&stc=1&d=1307426938

Hope this helps!

Mike

Last_of_the_PEs
06-07-2011, 03:10 AM
I love my GearHead wireless keyboard. It fits easily in my carry bag, designed for a 12" laptop. It uses a USB "dongle", not Bluetooth.

The addition of a USB Ethernet adapter has helped a lot. Look for a StarTech USB2106S on the WalMart website. It plugs straight in and works well. Then you can QUICKLY copy files from another computer on your home network, and get the speed benefit from a higher "class" micro-SD card.

Although the onboard wireless G brings in connections well, you cannot configure some home routers via wireless.

I already had a Bluetooth GPS receiver, and with a little effort, got it working on the eDGe, so my mapping is position-enabled. By tethering my cell phone 3G, I have WiFi anywhere.

I use a USB barcode reader, but most people wouldn't need one.

Quality earbuds are essential, so you can watch movies on the go and actually HEAR them. The speakers aren't bad but produce fairly low volume.

I often use Pandora, KeePassDroid (password store), IMDb, and the AT&T utility that lets me control my uVerse DVR from anywhere. With effort you can get the Gmail client running, but apparently Market is a tougher nut to crack.

WiFiAnalyzer is fun to look at, even if it doesn't really help very much.

I use DVDFAB on my media center PC to convert movies down to iPod (MP4) format.

ptsenter
06-07-2011, 12:44 PM
I already had a Bluetooth GPS receiver, and with a little effort, got it working on the eDGe, ...

I use a USB barcode reader, but most people wouldn't need one.
May you be more specific:
- what receiver model?
- what effort?
- is it eDGe or Pocket eDGe?
- what reader model?
Thanks.

glow
06-07-2011, 01:43 PM
2. Energizer XP8000 (Another woot! purchase. 3000 mA @ 12V)
2.5. Energizer Cable


The Energizer charger caught my attention. This unit is compatible to charge the PE? Does it need a special tip adapter? (If so, what is the #?)

Thanks!

geckoFeet
06-07-2011, 08:28 PM
The Energizer charger caught my attention. This unit is compatible to charge the PE? Does it need a special tip adapter? (If so, what is the #?)

Thanks!

The xpal energizer thing is wonderful, just like carrying around another battery. That's because you ARE carrying around another battery. It's rated about the same capacity as the EE battery, so bigger than the PE battery. If the PE adapter tip is the same size as the EE one, that would be the NB05, which came with the battery, at least when I got it from Woot.

mokel22
06-07-2011, 10:44 PM
I, like 5thWiggle used a 10" net book case. I picked one up at 5 below and figured it needed more protection than a thin layer of neoprene. As a result, I picked up one of those silicone roll-up keyboards to wrap it in (and it doubles as a keyboard too ;) . All of the accessories fit snugly in the case and the extra protection is needed for the irreplaceable PE.

As for apps, the rest have it pretty covered.

kennyminot
06-07-2011, 11:22 PM
The hinge makes the PE an awesome laptop replacement. I've barely used my netbook since I bought it. Recently, I got a USB keyboard (http://www.expansys-usa.com/expansys-87-key-usb-mini-keyboard-silver-218086/) in the mail (in fact, it arrived today). It was $10 and seems to be of excellent quality. The color scheme also fits beautifully with the eDGe. The two look they were made for each other.

Heh Sarah, where can I buy the little droids that float over my e-ink pad?

emusan
06-07-2011, 11:31 PM
Heh Sarah, where can I buy the little droids that float over my e-ink pad?

If you want the best looking ones(watch out, they cost a LOT of money) see this: link (http://www.photoshop.com/), although if your willing to settle for a little less nice looking(but free-ish), see this: link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paint_%28software%29)

miked1541
06-07-2011, 11:55 PM
The Energizer charger caught my attention. This unit is compatible to charge the PE? Does it need a special tip adapter? (If so, what is the #?)

Thanks!

Hi Glow,

So far, the XP8000 seems to work fine. I even tested it with my multimeter and compared it with the power supply that came with the Pocket Edge. The XP8000 comes with plenty of different adapters and I found that the NB05 works. No need to special order or anything. Just plug it into the green cable and output port (DC9V-12V) and you should be good to go. The battery has sense resistors to determine the proper voltage.

Also, I found out that the cells inside the PE (2x 3.7v Lithium Polymer) are rated at 14.8 watt hours. The XP8000 cells (4x 3.7v LiPo) are rated at 30 (29.6) watt hours. So I guess I can use the PE for quite some time without connecting to grid power.

miked1541

glow
06-08-2011, 12:17 AM
Great, thanks for the info!

sarah11918
06-08-2011, 01:04 PM
Heh Sarah, where can I buy the little droids that float over my e-ink pad?

My Android Robot Army was created on the edge itself! PicSay is the app I used. For you, my friend... free! :)

ptsenter
06-10-2011, 04:55 PM
Does anybody know which one would work with PE?
Or, at least, point me where to look?
Thanks.

glow
06-12-2011, 12:18 AM
The XP8000 comes with plenty of different adapters and I found that the NB05 works. No need to special order or anything. Just plug it into the green cable and output port (DC9V-12V) and you should be good to go. The battery has sense resistors to determine the proper voltage.


FYI, to anyone who orders one of these chargers, you are not guaranteed to get that tip included with the assortment of tips provided (depending where you order from I guess). I ordered the XP8000 from J&R, and the NB05 was not included. They do claim you can order additional tips for free (there is some shipping charge), so I will pursue that.

In any case, thanks again.

paula-t
06-12-2011, 02:04 PM
... Recently, I got a USB keyboard (http://www.expansys-usa.com/expansys-87-key-usb-mini-keyboard-silver-218086/) in the mail (in fact, it arrived today). It was $10 and seems to be of excellent quality. The color scheme also fits beautifully with the eDGe.


I followed your link, Kenny, but I couldn't find size information.
How long and wide is it, please? I urgently need to buy a small keyboard, and I haven't find the one I am looking for. My ideal is not longer than 28 cm....

Thank you very much!

attemptress
06-12-2011, 04:18 PM
@ptsenter:

for gps reciever and mapping info look in the entourage archive . . .

here:
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137794

and here:
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138028

ptsenter
06-13-2011, 04:48 PM
@ptsenter:

for gps reciever and mapping info look in the entourage archive . . .
Thank you, for whatever reason I forgot about the archive.
And, while at that, where can I get Bluegps?
PE is my first and the only Android device I have. Search on Internet produces nothing useful.

Last_of_the_PEs
06-13-2011, 06:47 PM
I HAVE BlueGps 1.2.2, but I can't remember where I found it, and can't find it on any of the "markets" I have on my PE. I might have pulled it from the official market using my emulator. If you can't find it, PM me and I'll send you a link to where I expose it.

This Chicken Dance for apps is really irritating! I hate the whole idea of "Market"!!!!

sarah11918
06-13-2011, 07:07 PM
Is this it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833094

I usually google the file name and add .apk when I'm having trouble finding certain apps. Sometimes it works.

Last_of_the_PEs
06-13-2011, 07:29 PM
It is indeed, and the download works. Good find Sarah!

Penru
06-17-2011, 10:09 AM
Just thought I would share some of my great finds, and some questions...

This bag works great for the PE, It allows for easy access to my PE! and plenty of storage for anything else I want to carry. Also all compartments are waterproof, and you can even add extra pockets (with molle straps).

UTG Tactical Messenger Bag (currently on sale for $19.99)
http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/UTG_Tactical_Messenger_Bag_p/65481.htm

this Universal USB Charger Cable has an interesting design that allows you to charge up to 10 devices with 1 usb port ( will take forever to charge tho). It also has a chip to prevent over charging!

Universal USB Charger Cable ($1.78)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Universal-USB-Charger-Cable-Cellphone-iPhone-iPod-L-/250674106946?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a5d575242

This reading light provides enough light to read by while not using alot of battery.

USB 3 LED Light ($0.99)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Flexible-USB-3-LED-Light-Lamp-Laptop-PC-Notebook-/120738855384?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1c98b9d8

~~~Now for the questions~~~

I am try to use PDAnet from my droid phone to connect my PE to the internet, however I have found out that the PE has trouble connecting to AdHoc networks. If I were to buy a usb wifi modem and use it on my PE would I be able to connect to my PE?

Is anyone out there actively working on PE & EE exclusive apps? If so where can one go to get help with these apps and to download them? The EE & PE devices have so much more capability than standard tablets and readers, we need to find a way to utilize this tech to the max!

ken_jennings
06-17-2011, 10:36 AM
When I'm not stuffing my EE into the same bag with my regular laptop, I carry it around in this netbook bag. I don't like sleeves since I usually want to carry various other knick-knacks. It's probably big enough for two PEs.

Everki EKB407NCH10 Advance Netbook Case Briefcase - Fits Netbooks up to 10.2" (http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5384422&CatId=4047)

http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/SkuImages/gallery/large/EKB407NCH10_05.jpg

I got it at CompUSA HERE (http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5384422&CatId=4047). Same bag is also available through Amazon HERE (http://www.amazon.com/Everki-EKB407NCH10-Advance-NetbookCase-Briefcase/dp/B002LGWBD0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=apparel&qid=1277786447&sr=8-1). Looks like the same bag is HERE (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834995956&cm_re=everki-_-34-995-956-_-Product)on NewEgg. (also sold by TigerDirect which happens to be the owner of CompUSA.)


The main compartment fits the edge very well.
The front compartment is wide enough to hold the 9" wide SolidTek Mini USB keyboard (http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1818112&CatId=533), plus has enough other pockets and two nets for flash drives and whatnots.
The front has another smaller pocket a bit wider than the typical DVD jewel case.
It has the usual band on the back to slip over luggage handles.
A removable, full-size, adjustable shoulder strap is included which I don't personally find useful for a case this small.

It was less than $20 when I bought it.

So, in one, nicely-sized case I can comfortably fit the edge, a usb keyboard, flash drives, a spare Penabled pen (or two), headphones, and one or two other handheld electronic toys (or the edge power adapter).

vicinc
06-17-2011, 11:33 AM
I still hope to see Swype on the e-ink as keyboard and lcd for browsing, or virtual keyboard on lcd and e-ink for typing documents. Shame we have such a good device and such a bad software. would be no need for external kb

emusan
06-17-2011, 12:35 PM
Unfortunately at this time there are no apps designed for the PE/EE, as entourage never released an sdk to access the eink functions. I don't think that there will be anytime soon either, unfortunately. Even if we do get an sdk it would be hard to convince developers to use it given the very small acitve userbase...

yugami
06-17-2011, 09:12 PM
You can find that Rothco Traveler bag (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000U619UO/ref=as_li_ss_til?camp=213381&creative=390973&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000U619UO&tag=woodworkin067-20&adid=1WW1QJFVNVBAQCHT1TYG&) Mike shows in his post on Amazon here.

Black is showing up as only $10.25 right now

If you need a spare stylus one of the ones mentioned in the old official edge forum is also available on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000085BD9/ref=as_li_ss_til?camp=213381&creative=390973&tag=woodworkin067-20&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000085BD9&adid=0DMV8JMYXSV25QWJZDMK) together they get you over the 25 dollar free shipping hump. This stylus fits (its a little tight due to having the button) in the stylus slot and has a grey tip that blends well with a black edge.

I just got mine and it is the perfect size to carry the PE, charger and a misc stuff. If it seems a little to mursish the strap comes off. I've been hunting for a while now and this is the best option I've seen for a PE case with storage.

Since I almost lost my stylus on vacation I decided to nab this one. It can be found other places a little cheaper but the free shipping sealed the deal for me.

glow
06-18-2011, 11:11 PM
this Universal USB Charger Cable has an interesting design that allows you to charge up to 10 devices with 1 usb port ( will take forever to charge tho). It also has a chip to prevent over charging!

Universal USB Charger Cable ($1.78)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Universal-USB-Charger-Cable-Cellphone-iPhone-iPod-L-/250674106946?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a5d575242



Do I take this as a suggestion that a USB charger will work to charge the PE, as a trickle charge? If so, is that safe?

I know someone whose new PE does not appear to be charging with the normal adapter, and it would be good to be able to try an alternate method to diagnose what the problem is - the charger, or something else.

Also, if that is an option, would the led turn green immediately when starting to charge, or would there be a delay? So far it's been flashing red despite having the charger attached.

Thanks.

emusan
06-18-2011, 11:38 PM
AFAIK the PE doesn't charge over USB... Are you using an adapter to connect to the normal power terminal?

glow
06-18-2011, 11:45 PM
My friend is trying to charge using the supplied adapter in the normal power input port.

Last_of_the_PEs
06-19-2011, 01:57 AM
According to the manual, the PE does NOT charge from EITHER USB port. You have to charge it through the power port.

glow
06-19-2011, 02:25 AM
OK, thanks.

Penru
06-19-2011, 01:19 PM
According to the manual, the PE does NOT charge from EITHER USB port. You have to charge it through the power port.

I never said it charged through the USB port, I simply pointed out a cable that will plug the power port on the PE to a usb port to charge it.

Last_of_the_PEs
06-19-2011, 02:13 PM
The green LED does light immediately after a working adapter is plugged in. There is no way to charge an eDGe apart from providing 12 volts to the power port, hopefully with at least the current capacity of the original supply (1amp).

A volt meter should be used to determine if the power supply is working. That won't confirm the current the unit can supply, but it is rare for a supply to provide the rated voltage but fail to provide the rated current due to an internal failure.

While it is NOT possible to charge an edge using a cable that connects to a PC USB port, it is possible to charge something like a phone FROM the eDGe using the USB port, if it can be done from a PC USB port. So if you're traveling and forget your phone power supply, the phone can be charged while the eDGe is charging, but it will ONLY supply power TO the USB port while it's on (not hibernated, but fully on with the display running).

glow
06-19-2011, 02:29 PM
OK, thanks. My friend is going to try to get the adapter checked out, or else we are going to meet up and see if my adapter works on her unit.

ivanjt
06-19-2011, 07:20 PM
Penru, I'm sorry to say but there is no way that USB cable is going to work with either a PE or an EE.

USB ports supply 5V only the PE and EE require 12V therefore no work. Now if you wanted to use it from the PE to charge your phone then OK but as Last said only when the USB port is active.

Erminio Mostacci
06-20-2011, 05:11 AM
I recommend this keyboard that works well with a apk files made ​​available in another thread
LINKS:
http://cgi.ebay.it/Mini-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-for-iPad-iPhone-4-OS-/290577593487?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_Ke yboardsMice&hash=item43a7c6348f

Erminio Mostacci
06-20-2011, 05:18 AM
Application for using a Bluetooth keyboard is:
Bluetooth Keyboard Easyconnect

Link thread:
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139735

Link for downloading by CheyenneDonna
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/234341/Bluetooth%20Keyboard%20Easy%20Connect%20Bluetooth% 20.apk

I hope that this information can be useful

Erminio

Filark
06-20-2011, 10:42 PM
Thanks for the keyboard info, Erminio! :)

Question about chargers: Is there any reason I should not use the charger for my EE with my PE or vice versa? :thanks:

Dumas
06-20-2011, 11:09 PM
Thanks for the keyboard info, Erminio! :)

Question about chargers: Is there any reason I should not use the charger for my EE with my PE or vice versa? :thanks:

My recollection from the enTourage forums was that both adapters worked fine with both devices.

You could search the archive, but I'm pretty sure the replacement AC adapter that enTourage sold through their online store was the same for both EE and PE. Users expressed a preference for the adapter that shipped with the PE because there was operationally no difference and it was much smaller and lighter.

ivanjt
06-21-2011, 05:13 AM
Hi Filark,

The only difference I can remember from the old forum is the current supplied by the charger - 2.5A for the EE and I think less for the PE. Each device will only take what it needs but if you try to charge the EE with the PE charger only problem is it might take a little longer to do so - the other way round there is no problem.

Last_of_the_PEs
06-22-2011, 11:47 AM
Both adapters were spec'd. over what was needed to extend their life. I know the PE doesn't draw anywhere near an amp at any time. If the EE did, it would kill the power supply because where current is concerned the supply doesn't "go to here and stop" -- it goes until it DIES.

Depending on what DIES, the supply could expose the unit to wall voltage, but only momentarily until something in the unit SMOKES.

If someone here has charged AND RUN an EE with the smaller PE supply, we'll know the EE doesn't draw more than an amp of current. Even then, I wouldn't try powering something on the USB host connector on an EE using the PE supply! If no one has bravely or inadvertently done it, I'd recommend labeling the adapter cable, close to the END on ONE of them, so you don't accidentally offer up your device as an electronic lab rat.

The best way to label the cable is to acquire a short piece of shrink tubing, write PE on it, slip it over the 3.5mm plug and heat it over the stove until it is securely in place. If your eDGe devices are a different color, labeling the tip that ISN'T black with the unit's color would work.

glow
06-22-2011, 01:07 PM
There's always the colored duct tape label method!

obsessed2
06-22-2011, 03:13 PM
Thanks for the keyboard info, Erminio! :)

Question about chargers: Is there any reason I should not use the charger for my EE with my PE or vice versa? :thanks:

Theoretically there should be no reason why you can't use the EE charger on the PE because if you look at the Tip & Ring diagram both show a + Tip and a - Ring. Both chargers supply + 12 VDC. However, I would not use the PE charger to try and charge the EE for two reasons. The charger is only capable of supplying 0.3 Amps which means one of two things: The EE will take forever to charge, or if you turn it on while plugged in it could draw more current than the PE charger is capable of supplying (3/10ths of an Amp) and you risk damaging the charger.

ivanjt
06-22-2011, 06:31 PM
Both adapters were spec'd. over what was needed to extend their life. I know the PE doesn't draw anywhere near an amp at any time. If the EE did, it would kill the power supply because where current is concerned the supply doesn't "go to here and stop" -- it goes until it DIES.
Are you saying the PE power supply is so cheap and nasty that it doesn't have current limiting on the output. My experience is that to have the CE mark they must be such that the output is limited to a fixed percentage (depends on device) over rated output - also they must fail safe under all conditions.

At some stage I'll hook my EE to one of our precision lab supplies and find out what current it does draw.

Filark
06-23-2011, 10:01 PM
Thanks, you guys! :)

I think, just to be safe, I'll keep them separate. The cords feel different, so even though I'm keeping them in the same place I won't likely get them confused. ;)

Penru
06-27-2011, 08:50 AM
I just found a hidden SD mini port on the PE! If someone has a SD mini card or adapter could you please check the port to see if it is active? To find the hidden port simply remove the rubber cover for the SD micro port, on the other side is a SD mini port. If this works I wonder what the new storage limit of the PE will be... Can not wait for an answer!

glow
06-27-2011, 01:32 PM
I just found a hidden SD mini port on the PE! If someone has a SD mini card or adapter could you please check the port to see if it is active? To find the hidden port simply remove the rubber cover for the SD micro port, on the other side is a SD mini port. If this works I wonder what the new storage limit of the PE will be... Can not wait for an answer!

I seem to recall there were plans for SIM card support (never implemented); I suspect this is the slot you are describing.

Penru
06-27-2011, 03:42 PM
I seem to recall there were plans for SIM card support (never implemented); I suspect this is the slot you are describing.

ok, so does this mean I can use put the sim card from my phone in my PE?

sarah11918
06-27-2011, 05:01 PM
ok, so does this mean I can use put the sim card from my phone in my PE?

You can, but it won't do anything. ;)

As Glow said, this feature was never implemented.

ken_jennings
06-28-2011, 02:53 PM
Undocumented EE/PE feature: SIM card holder for people with more SIM cards than phones.

ptsenter
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
SIM card holderGood idea: while in Europe I can store my Sim card in PE.:)

glow
06-28-2011, 11:25 PM
Good idea: while in Europe I can store my Sim card in PE.

:)

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ivanjt
06-29-2011, 05:59 AM
Good idea: while in Europe I can store my Sim card in PE.:)
Only if you are interested in shorting out both the SIM and PE - there is no holder on the board to contain the SIM.

ptsenter
06-29-2011, 11:54 AM
Only if you are interested in shorting out both the SIM and PE - there is no holder on the board to contain the SIM.
Tested: no shortages:D and the holder is very, extremely:rofl:, secure:p.

Gunnerp245
08-07-2011, 09:28 AM
...2. Energizer XP8000 (Another woot! purchase. Battery is 30 watt hours).Mike

The spec say; Rated Output: 5V, 1A / 10.5V 2A / 19V 2A. :blink:
As the EE/PE is 12V has this been an issue?

Edit: Product Webpage (http://www.shop.energizerpowerpacks.com/external-batteries/energizer-xp8000)

Edit2: I see the use of one of provided 'Willy Cables (http://www.energizerpowerpacks.com/us/services/questions-answers.html#)' makes the difference.

vmcarranza
10-13-2011, 08:58 PM
... By tethering my cell phone 3G, I have WiFi anywhere.

Hello!
I am new to this forum. I'm the happy owner of a beautiful black PE (with the Ermine update). I have owned it for just a few weeks so far, and felt somewhat frustrated when I discovered that it does not recognize any of the USB 3G modems I've tried. Also tried to find ways to tether the PE to my bluetooth/3G enabled phone, with no luck. Could you please tell me how you did it?
Thanks a lot in advance!
-Victor

ATFmac
10-14-2011, 12:48 AM
Hi vmcarranza, Welcome to the forums!
I suggest you look over the forums in your free time, you'll find many questions/answers of all kinds. With the good support here, its often easy to find what you're looking for :)


Hello!
I am new to this forum. I'm the happy owner of a beautiful black PE (with the Ermine update). I have owned it for just a few weeks so far, and felt somewhat frustrated when I discovered that it does not recognize any of the USB 3G modems I've tried.
-Victor

3G modems will not work on Ermine, it is a beta technically. So far I haven't seen a fix yet. But Dingo isn't beta and it works with 3G usb modems.

Also tried to find ways to tether the PE to my bluetooth/3G enabled phone, with no luck. Could you please tell me how you did it?
Thanks a lot in advance!
-Victor

There is quite a bit of tethering support as of late. I get 3G by having my Rooted phone use Wifi Tethering, creating an adhoc wifi connection.

Then you must either use ZT-Switcher to switch your PE into Adhoc mode so it can connect to your phone.
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147180

Or you use the newest option that lets you connect without the ZT program. Seems pretty easy to impliment.
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1770183#post1770183

If you are curious about rooting your device, look at step 3 on this thread.
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147180
Rooting is needed to run ZT Switcher, I don't see a reason why you'd need to be Rooted for the Non ZT option. Which is convenient for many.

Good Luck

vmcarranza
10-14-2011, 01:48 PM
Hi vmcarranza, Welcome to the forums!
I suggest you look over the forums in your free time, you'll find many questions/answers of all kinds.
Hi!
Thank you very much. I have been reading the forums, but the only solution everyone mentions is wifi tethering. None of my phones are able to act like a wifi hotspot, but they can work as bluetooth modems; so I was wondering whether it is possible to tether via bluetooth.
Thanks in advance for any help with that!
Cheers,
-Victor

ptsenter
10-14-2011, 06:29 PM
they can work as bluetooth modems; so I was wondering whether it is possible to tether via bluetooth.

Generic answer is YES.

Try the following, it works on some phones:

- pair your phone to Edge, Edge will show your device - phone - as "Paired but not connected". Ignore this message: I tested pairing with Bluetooth GPS and it worked.
- on the Edge hard press your phone for 2 - 3 secs and a new menu pops up and one of the choices is Tether!!!

vmcarranza
10-17-2011, 06:15 PM
I've tried with my two phones (blackberry 8250 and LG GX500), both of them are paired with Edge, both of them are configured to allow the Edge to communicate without restrictions, but when I select "tether" on the Edge as per your instructions, nothing happens. I've tried disabling wifi, I've toyed with the "tethering initialization" setting, putting strings like "*99#" and the name of the internet profile on the phone, but alas, nothing seems to work! Maybe I am out of luck and none of my phones can work with tethered devices.

ATFmac
10-17-2011, 07:36 PM
I've tried with my two phones (blackberry 8250 and LG GX500), both of them are paired with Edge, both of them are configured to allow the Edge to communicate without restrictions, but when I select "tether" on the Edge as per your instructions, nothing happens. I've tried disabling wifi, I've toyed with the "tethering initialization" setting, putting strings like "*99#" and the name of the internet profile on the phone, but alas, nothing seems to work! Maybe I am out of luck and none of my phones can work with tethered devices.

Well ptsenter said the Generic answer is yes. A lot of phone/android bluetooth related tethering has been a thorn in many users sides. It wasn't very likely that it'd work very simply for you. If you look on the internet for forums created for your particular smart phone, you'll prob find guides for rooting the phone. Doing so enables you to use as a wifi connection using a tethering program. Rooting is dancing with your phones hidden settings, which has a chance to mess your phone up if you're not thorough on following the process. I was able to do it on my phone without many steps luckily, each phone is different per community support. This is the most likely way you'll get free wifi to any device.

Feel free to surf a lot of forums for tips/ideas on getting bluetooth tethering working, as ptsenter said, some devices are capable. But as I stated, it hasn't been an easy route for many people, so you may have to search harder.

Whichever option you choose, make sure to read a lot before implementing any ideas/suggestions. You'd be surprised what you'd learn if you spend a day reading forums. Yes tedious and boring at times, but ridiculously informative in most cases. :bookworm:

Good luck!