View Full Version : Smartphone vs E-Ink ?


Fif23
11-11-2010, 01:12 PM
I am trying to decide if I want a dedicated ereader or not.
At the moment, I am reading epubs off Android using an HTC Desire HD (4.3" like HD2, EVO and Droid X)

It's alright and it's pretty high quality but I have never seen a E-Ink Pearl in action.

Is it worth buying a dedicated reader in addition to the smartphone ? What was your thoughts when YOU moved from your 3.7"+ smartphone to E-INK ? Is it much more comfortable ?

neilmarr
11-12-2010, 04:30 AM
Many here, Silencer, prefer eink to backlit devices because they're easier on the eyes and the battery charge. Also a traditional book-sized screen, of course. Good luck and best wishes. Neil

bill_mchale
11-12-2010, 10:40 AM
I am trying to decide if I want a dedicated ereader or not.
At the moment, I am reading epubs off Android using an HTC Desire HD (4.3" like HD2, EVO and Droid X)

It's alright and it's pretty high quality but I have never seen a E-Ink Pearl in action.

Is it worth buying a dedicated reader in addition to the smartphone ? What was your thoughts when YOU moved from your 3.7"+ smartphone to E-INK ? Is it much more comfortable ?

Well, admittedly, the latest generation of Smart Phones have rather large screens, but some might still think they are a little bit small for reading. A 4.3 in screen will probably have about 50% of the area of a 6" screen, which means you will be turning pages twice as often.

Further, the latest generation smart phones tend to burn batteries rather quickly if left active. In contrast, an eInk reader can often go weeks between battery charges.

Finally, eInk just comes much closer to recreating the feel of reading a page in a real book.

--
Bill

jethro10
11-12-2010, 11:22 AM
I have an E-ink machine, have had for over 2 years. I recently got an Android phone and put FbReader on it, and using it for small gaps of time when I never had the full size reader with me.

Suprisingly, I've never picked up the E-Ink reader for over 2 months now.
Much longer and it goes on Ebay.

My reading patters have me reading several times a week, fir 30-90 mins per session. Eye strain (I'm 50 with glasses) has not been a problem.
The convenience has won me over.

J

wodin
11-12-2010, 03:59 PM
I have an E-ink machine, have had for over 2 years. I recently got an Android phone and put FbReader on it, and using it for small gaps of time when I never had the full size reader with me.

Suprisingly, I've never picked up the E-Ink reader for over 2 months now.
Much longer and it goes on Ebay.

My reading patters have me reading several times a week, fir 30-90 mins per session. Eye strain (I'm 50 with glasses) has not been a problem.
The convenience has won me over.

J


Yup, what Jethro said!

TallMomof2
11-13-2010, 04:43 PM
I read for years on PDAs but was never satisfied because I found reading on the small backlit LCD tiring. YMMV. Since I purchased my first Kindle I've read more with far less eye fatigue. It's not just the difference between eInk and LCD. The screen size is far larger on the smaller Kindles and I find it less tiring to track on a larger screen.

I do like my Droid but only read on it when I'm away from home. I used to carry my Kindle but the reading experience on the Droid is good enough for short reading sessions. A big plus for me is the ability to sync between my Kindle and my Droid so I don't have to remember where I stopped reading on each device.

Richey79
11-16-2010, 10:56 AM
I've gone in the opposite direction to you: I started with dedicated ereaders, but now do some of my reading on a mobile device.

If you find reading on the phone an enjoyable experience, I think you'll love one of the latest generation of eink readers.

However, if you don't find it uncomfortable in any way reading from the SLCD screen, maybe you should consider checking out an eink device before buying... it could be that a back-lit tablet device might be more suitable for you, particularly if you read lots of PDFs/comics/technical documents.

=X=
11-16-2010, 12:27 PM
I read on both, and kind of like reading on the Kindle better. It's mainly because I can read on eInk with less interruptions. On my phone I'm typically getting, text, emails, and phone calls.

I also tend to read outside during my lunch break. Where the eInk is a clear winner. At night if I can't go to sleep I'll read on my phone since it's much easier to read a backlit device in the dark than using a light source.

=X=

Fif23
11-18-2010, 03:43 AM
Nice.
I was wondering how many of you also own laptops in addition to the smartphone and E-Ink device and Why ?

This is kind of off topic, but will help me make a few decisions :)

HTC Desire looks interesting btw Richey. Do you like it ?

Carl314
11-18-2010, 08:33 AM
I have been reading books using Aldiko on my original Droid (3.8" screen) for just over a year, and loved it (before that, I used an HTC Touch, with a 2.8" screen). And when my contract runs out, I want a Droid X-sized screen!

However, I just broke down and purchased a Kindle 3. We're taking a cruise next week and will be spending a lot of time in the sun. Even if I could view the Droid screen on teh beach (doubtful), the battery wouldn't last a few hours with the screen on.

As eagerly as I await convergence, I think e-ink will be around for a few more years, at least until there's a dramatic improvement in battery life (days of use the screen being on, not hours) and LCD/AMOLED screens are easy to read in sunlight.

Cheers, Carl.

leaston
11-20-2010, 06:37 PM
I've been reading ebooks on my smartphones for around 3yrs and currently use a HTC Desire. I have no problem with eye strain and find it most useful at night because I can read in bed easily. However, I still hark after a larger screen size and intend to ask for a Kindle at Xmas (if Santa thinks I've been good enough!).

Like =X=, my intention is to continue to use the phone to read in bed at night and the Kindle for the rest of the time. Despite being a geeky tech lover, I do miss the look, feel and smell of a real book in my hands and won't completely substitute them until I'm forced to. But, the e-ink screens look about as close as you can get at the moment.

The convenience of having something with a bigger screen, yet still very portable and able to contain a choice of ebooks and audio books with web access is too good to miss.

So, for me it's not smartphone vs e-ink. I want both! :D

gtriever
11-21-2010, 05:41 AM
When I moved to the Droid X, I was amazed at how well the high-resolution screen displayed text. While I still primarily use my Nook for reading, I have no problem reading with the X for short periods of time.

jhempel24
11-21-2010, 09:12 AM
I nwver thoght I'd read on a cell phone but the droid x converted me. I use it s much a as my e-ink now. still nothing beats the eink for me though

Kevin2960
11-21-2010, 11:41 AM
We have a Sony, 2 Kindle 3's and a brand new HTC Desire HD (Fantastic Phone), loaded with eReader apps ,

The Pearl eInk on the K3 is brilliant, No eye strain at all,

The Desire is great where you haven't got your Kindle with you, and needs no reading light,

But if your an avid READER, wanting to read books, bot use GPS , play games and don't want to hurt your eyes or get headaches ... then a Kindle wins every time !

The desire is great, but as a READER the K3 is virtually unbeatable !!

Pay your money and take your choice ?

woodfrog
11-21-2010, 12:19 PM
Hi,
I bought the HTC Desire as well and that was when I discovered e-reading for me for the first time. It is pretty comfortable to read with its AMOLED-Display and good reading software (like FBReader), especially because you can switch to white text on dark background in the night, and don't need a lightsource.
But if you want to read in the sunshine, it just doesn't work, that's a fact.

So I found that I would like to have an ereader-device as well and just bought a Sony PRS-650 a few weeks ago.
I don't regret buying both devices, the Sony is perfect for reading at home, or in the sun, the Desire I always carry with me (but since I got the Sony I don't really use it for reading any more...).

fyrogenesis
11-29-2010, 10:42 PM
e-ink IS not durable. if you traveling much by motorbike (like me), it would definitely failed under a month.

GraceKrispy
12-05-2010, 02:09 PM
I recently got a droid x. I like to read on it, but my 505 is still my preferred reading experience. I use the droid for stopgap reading, when my sony is not in my hands. I always have my phone. I also like it when it's night and I don't have a light source available.

HarryT
12-05-2010, 02:17 PM
e-ink IS not durable. if you traveling much by motorbike (like me), it would definitely failed under a month.

Sorry to disagree, but I've carried eInk devices in my backpack on my motorbike for years, with absolutely no problems whatsoever.

HarmonS
12-09-2010, 08:35 PM
I bought my first (and only so far but that will change shortly) e-ink reader, a Sony 505, back over a year ago because I wanted to try the e-ink technology. I have had many, many, many computers for many years, starting back in about 1984. I have never found any screen that I could stand reading long texts on before I got my e-ink reader. And I mean I have tried a lot of different very high quality screens and video cards, laptops, etc. I have a HTC Hero smartphone which has a nice little screen, but I can't imagine reading a novel on it. I have never been able to stand reading on even the best quality computer screen long enough to read a novel.
But I am very happy to say that my Sony 505 is very, very readable, have read several novels on it without tiring my eyes, and now am going to invest in a Sony 950. I wish it ran on Android and am thinking maybe I can hack it to do so.

HarmonS
12-09-2010, 08:45 PM
Nice.
I was wondering how many of you also own laptops in addition to the smartphone and E-Ink device and Why ?

This is kind of off topic, but will help me make a few decisions :)

HTC Desire looks interesting btw Richey. Do you like it ?

I have a laptop, a Toshiba running Debian Linux, and also an Asus EEEPC netbook running Debian Linux. As I stated in my other post, I don't like reading anything very long on computer or laptop screens, it bothers my eyes too much. I also have a couple of desktop machines running linux and my wife has an iMac. She can read okay on the computer, never heard her complaining, but don't know if she would read a book on one.

Dopedangel
12-09-2010, 11:53 PM
I bought my first (and only so far but that will change shortly) e-ink reader, a Sony 505, back over a year ago because I wanted to try the e-ink technology. I have had many, many, many computers for many years, starting back in about 1984. I have never found any screen that I could stand reading long texts on before I got my e-ink reader. And I mean I have tried a lot of different very high quality screens and video cards, laptops, etc. I have a HTC Hero smartphone which has a nice little screen, but I can't imagine reading a novel on it. I have never been able to stand reading on even the best quality computer screen long enough to read a novel.
But I am very happy to say that my Sony 505 is very, very readable, have read several novels on it without tiring my eyes, and now am going to invest in a Sony 950. I wish it ran on Android and am thinking maybe I can hack it to do so.

check out notion Ink Adam it has a Pixel Qi screen so you can have a back lit reader as well as normal LCD and is supposed to be released with android 2.2.

jhempel24
12-10-2010, 12:09 AM
yeah, but I think $500 is a bit steep for the moment....I'll keep my book light with my nook, and stop gap reading on my droid x.

The Ink Adam does look cool though.

fyrogenesis
12-10-2010, 02:28 AM
Sorry to disagree, but I've carried eInk devices in my backpack on my motorbike for years, with absolutely no problems whatsoever.

:smack:. it must be my bad luck then :( , or the roads here are very bumpy :p

HarmonS
12-10-2010, 11:43 AM
check out notion Ink Adam it has a Pixel Qi screen so you can have a back lit reader as well as normal LCD and is supposed to be released with android 2.2.

Nope, not interested in anything that doesn't have an e-ink screen. That's what my whole previous post was about, eh? I can't read long texts on any sort of screen except e-paper, e-ink. I don't think they should even be selling those other devices as "e-book readers", at least not without informing people that their screens are NOT e-ink.