Oddly, that's another way I'm using my Nook these days!

I need to lose about 90 pounds, I'd previously lost 20 and kept that off the past four years, but simply couldn't motivate myself to endure the hunger pangs and rigors of losing any more. Yet, for the health of my feet, ankles and bad right knee, I need to do it.

One night, I started thinking about how much I loved having my Nook and worrying because as reading is a sedentary sort of pastime, I was afraid I might read even more and uh, possibly gain weight.

And then it occurred to me that motivation to lose weight and exercise was sitting right under my nose, so to speak!

:smack:

I'm using the Nook and buying ebooks as a REWARD INCENTIVE for my weight loss efforts. Normally, I don't buy books that often, but read borrowed library books instead. But this is working so far. With the idea of being able to buy an ebook or two if I stick to my calorie deficit and exercise, suddenly I can withstand the hunger, do the exercise and make real progress. Hubby is trying it too and he's making progress, where before, he never really even tried to diet. It makes me wonder if I've hit on something that could be useful for others?

At any rate, I put a page on my blog for how I'm working it, but I can clearly see that a reward motivation could work for just exercising or eating healthier or many other things, like uncluttering your house. (I'm kind of killing two birds with one stone on that... my first two weeks of ebook purchases have been to replace hardcovers on my bookshelves.)

Someone told me I was being creative, but I think it was sheer desperation. Still, dieting is fun again. I bought three ebooks this morning with my reward credits earned! Barnes & Noble ought to pay me for this idea! I think someone on the BN.com forums actually asked for a calorie counting app for Nook, so my plan would fit right in. :D

Nook Diet (https://thegardenweigh.wordpress.com/nook-diet/)

Anyway, since my nook inspired it, that's what I call it. But anyone with a reader can try it, maybe it can become the MobileRead diet for the owners of other readers. Or just the Reader Diet. For me, having ebooks besides freebies and classics was a BIG motivation. Two weeks, four pounds lost. (Naturally, the first week was mostly water, but this week was a very respectable 1.2 pounds. Better than normal for me!)

The thing is, weight loss isn't always linear, so you don't always get to see a result. But as you can get exercise credit with my idea, you can always get *some* kind of reward just for plain old persistence and not giving up.

I suppose lugging my reader around in my purse could count as excercise, especially since I carry my purse more because of the reader. ;)

I'm not doing it with my reader, but I'm doing something similar.

I'd really like to replace the 20 inch antique TV in my bedroom so I've set myself the challenge of 1 inch of TV for each 1 pound lost and then kept off for 6 months.

I'd really like to have either a 37 or 42 inch TV that can connect to the internet.

I'm working on it. So far I'm looking at one of those little hand held personal TVs.

Maybe I should consider dieting with the reader. I'm starting to accumulate a list of books I want that I can't get from the library.

Good luck with your Nook diet.

Ebook readers are lots more convenient on the exercise bike or elliptical machine that a paper back :).

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I'm using my ebook reader to spend even more time sitting around doing nothing but staring at something and occasionally moving a thumb.

So, exactly the opposite.

I'm STILL re-habbing a knee replacement. the kindle keeps me on the stationary bike and/or ellipitcal than not having it does

I'm using my ebook reader to spend even more time sitting around doing nothing but staring at something and occasionally moving a thumb.

So, exactly the opposite.

That counts as exercise in my (e)book

My K3 (and before that the k1) makes it too easy to eat and read at the same time......no help there.

I use to watch TV while on my treadmill. Now I read my Nook. I find that time goes by much faster and I usually workout quite a bit longer than before. I have lost about 20lbs since I bought the Nook in February. I'm sure the longer workouts while reading has contributed to that.

~eddie

I haven't figured out a way to jog and eread yet, but no doubt someone will think of something.

Good luck with your programme graycyn - let us know how you get on

I haven't figured out a way to jog and eread yet, but no doubt someone will think of something.

Kindle, text to speech. I use it all the time.

Strangely enough, yes I am.

I'm following the Engine 2 Diet (http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Diet-Firefighters-Save-Your-Life-ebook/dp/B001S7HUIO/ref=kinw_dp_ke?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2) (low-fat vegan), and have the book on my Kindle for easy reference. I track everything I eat at FitDay.com (http://www.fitday.com/). I can review and enter data on my Kindle, though it's a little cumbersome. Finally, with the lighted case I can walk indoors while I'm reading.

All-around it works well.

I suppose lugging my reader around in my purse could count as excercise, especially since I carry my purse more because of the reader. ;)

You beat me to it, Jeannie. I've developed stronger wrists since I started using an e-reader.

I have two low-carb cookbooks on my Kindle, so yes!

When I saw the thread title I thought this was going to be about diet apps that ran on reading devices. ;) Back when I was reading on a Zodiac (PalmOS), I lost almost 30 lbs with the free CalorieKing app. Unfortunately I can't find an Android program that works as well, and the weight is creeping back...

As winter approaches I need to lose some weight too - well ok, I needed to lose even before winter.

Like JerseyBiker I used to watch TV on the treadmill, now, with my reader, I can change the font size to make reading a viable option so I'm going to try it in the near future. Hopefully I'll still get the enjoyment out of the books and at the same time not completely lose track of time either :)

Here is another thought. I unfortunately can't remember where I saw it, but I once saw a chart that listed activities and on average how many calories were burned during those activities. IIRC, Television watching was the worst, burning fewer calories per hour of activity than anything else, including sleeping and reading a book. Therefore, if your ebook reader has caused you to read more and watch less TV, it might be slowly helping you to reduce your wait.

:)

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Bill

Good idea. I'm sure none of the electronic readers taste all that good.

Good idea. I'm sure none of the electronic readers taste all that good.

Depends how you cook them and what you put on them.

Here is another thought. I unfortunately can't remember where I saw it, but I once saw a chart that listed activities and on average how many calories were burned during those activities. IIRC, Television watching was the worst, burning fewer calories per hour of activity than anything else, including sleeping and reading a book. Therefore, if your ebook reader has caused you to read more and watch less TV, it might be slowly helping you to reduce your wait.

:)

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Bill
But turning the page on my reader is so much easier than a pBook, it has be less calorie intensive :)

E-Reader Weight Loss Plan: Replace your morning and noon Slim Fast shakes with 30 minutes of reading. Eat your evening meal as normal.

E-Reader Weight Loss Plan: Replace your morning and noon Slim Fast shakes with 30 minutes of reading. Eat your evening meal as normal.

Only thought there is that skipping meals actually is usually counter productive in weight loss; particularly breakfast.

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Bill

Only thought there is that skipping meals actually is usually counter productive in weight loss; particularly breakfast.

Only if you wuss out and binge.

I guarantee that if you eat one 700-900 calorie meal a day and don't snack you will lose weight.

I'm not doing it with my reader, but I'm doing something similar.

I'd really like to replace the 20 inch antique TV in my bedroom so I've set myself the challenge of 1 inch of TV for each 1 pound lost and then kept off for 6 months.

I'd really like to have either a 37 or 42 inch TV that can connect to the internet.

I'm working on it. So far I'm looking at one of those little hand held personal TVs.

Maybe I should consider dieting with the reader. I'm starting to accumulate a list of books I want that I can't get from the library.

Good luck with your Nook diet.


That's a great idea too! We could use a larger TV as well. Hope you get yours and in the size you want!

I haven't figured out a way to jog and eread yet, but no doubt someone will think of something.

Good luck with your programme graycyn - let us know how you get on


I like that people are able to walk and read on treadmills and bike and read on stationary bikes, but that's never been comfortable for me. I like to have music when I am exercising. It just seems to hard for me to exercise AND concentrate on my reading at the same time.

Plus I do some pool exercising and while I know there are waterproof cases for Nook, I'm not feeling like I want to go there yet.

So far holding on. It's hard not eating when hungry, but having something to focus on earning like ebooks helps. I slipped a little on Monday and ate at about maintenance calories, but as long as I'm not overeating, I'm ahead of the game.

I have two low-carb cookbooks on my Kindle, so yes!

I've been thinking about putting a bunch of my favorite healthier recipes (collected from all over, books, internet, appliance manuals, stuff I've created) into ePUB format and putting them on my Nook for easy reference!

Haven't yet bought any e-cookbooks, but there's time yet!

Strangely enough, yes I am.

I'm following the Engine 2 Diet (http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Diet-Firefighters-Save-Your-Life-ebook/dp/B001S7HUIO/ref=kinw_dp_ke?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2) (low-fat vegan), and have the book on my Kindle for easy reference. I track everything I eat at FitDay.com (http://www.fitday.com/). I can review and enter data on my Kindle, though it's a little cumbersome. Finally, with the lighted case I can walk indoors while I'm reading.

All-around it works well.

That's pretty cool! I track in software on my computer, and probably wouldn't want to bother doing it online, since my Nook is WiFi only and I wouldn't always have access to a hotspot. But that's a good idea for tracking while traveling if I needed to!

I do know someone on the BN.com forums was suggesting a calorie counter app for Nook and I'd be in favor of it. (Well, as long as they attend to making it an even better e-reader first...)

Haven't mastered walking and reading yet... plus, our gym's walking track is around the perimeter of the basketball court. I don't think I'd want to risk my reader in the face of flying basketballs. It pays to be alert while walking there! But that's great that you are creating better health with your reader!

Only if you wuss out and binge.

I guarantee that if you eat one 700-900 calorie meal a day and don't snack you will lose weight.


Very true.

Though I doubt if it would work well for me... I'd go only so far, and then go crazy with hunger. I have the worst appetite. Actually, eating a single meal a day was more or less how I got fat. I'd skip breakfast, skip lunch, always too busy to eat, but when the hunger hit around 5PM or so, I'd eat too much. Everyone's different. I do better with 3-4 small meals a day.

If you're serious about losing weight and keeping it off for the rest of your life you need to permanently change the way you eat.

I recommend Reinhard Engles' "The No S Diet". It sounds gimmicky, but the entire "diet" is printed on the front cover and even Engles admits you don't need to buy the book.

If you want more details just visit the website: http://www.nosdiet.com/

If you want the book you can now find it in digital form: Inkmesh search (http://inkmesh.com/search/?qs=no+s+diet&btnE=Find+Ebooks)

For reviews of this "diet" check out Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Diet-Weight-Loss-Raving-DroppingPounds-ebook/dp/B0013TRRWG/).

I'm in the middle of reading "Parasite Rex" by Carl Zimmer. Best weight loss book ever, although that wasn't the intention of the author. :D I'm too scared to even drink water now!

If you're serious about losing weight and keeping it off for the rest of your life you need to permanently change the way you eat.

I recommend Reinhard Engles' "The No S Diet". It sounds gimmicky, but the entire "diet" is printed on the front cover and even Engles admits you don't need to buy the book.

If you want more details just visit the website: http://www.nosdiet.com/

Actually, that doesn't really sound gimmicky to me. No snacks, no sweets, no seconds makes fairly good sense. Though I think that one might want to define just what constitutes a "sweet", having just had a bit of watermelon with my lunch. And the cherry tomatoes I grow, those are practically a sweet! (Edit: Whoops, just saw that fruit is OK... should've read further down.)

I've changed my diet quite a bit during the last four years actually, I eat a lot of whole food, which I prepare myself. Cooking burns calories! I love veggies, so those are no problem. I actually don't snack for the most part, and when I serve something like chili or soup or stew or casserole, it's one serving for both me and hubby and the rest is portioned for further meals during the week.

So I would say I am mostly on board with this sort of plan already.

Actually, that doesn't really sound gimmicky to me.

I think the diet itself is the furthest thing from gimmicky. But it comes off as a bit gimmicky that the entire diet is on the cover of the book and is only 14 words long.

I use my Sony while I ride my exercise bike... I ride for a minimum of 30 minutes and if I am in the middle of a chapter when I hit my 30 I ride until I get to the end of a chapter. I have lost over a hundred pounds in the last year and a half and have at least 70 to go. That is the target set by my doctor, but I would like to loose another 100.
It is time I would probably use reading anyways and this way I am doing something to help myself physically too.

Oh and I have a high protien drink in the morning and a low fat low carb lunch with a normal meal at night. Cut the snacking and Chips are evil! They are my bane.. well chips and chocolate. :)

Only if you wuss out and binge.

I guarantee that if you eat one 700-900 calorie meal a day and don't snack you will lose weight.

1. Starvation diets actually might slow down your weight loss. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that skipping meals will put your body in a famine mode that reduces your metabolism and therefore the rate you are burning calories during the whole day (not just during exercise).

2. This sort of diet is the classic basis for yo-yo dieting since you can't possibly stick to it long term. Sure you might lose the weight you want, but then you end up returning to how you ate before you went on the diet and end up weighing the same ore more.

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1. Starvation diets actually might slow down your weight loss. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that skipping meals will put your body in a famine mode that reduces your metabolism and therefore the rate you are burning calories during the whole day (not just during exercise).

2. This sort of diet is the classic basis for yo-yo dieting since you can't possibly stick to it long term. Sure you might lose the weight you want, but then you end up returning to how you ate before you went on the diet and end up weighing the same ore more.

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I think a 900 kcal a day diet is terrible but I think that if you were able to stick to it, you'd definitely lose weight. Ever seen those VLCD people that think they're going to live super long because of how few kcals they consume? They're all twigs.

I use my Sony while I ride my exercise bike... I ride for a minimum of 30 minutes and if I am in the middle of a chapter when I hit my 30 I ride until I get to the end of a chapter. I have lost over a hundred pounds in the last year and a half and have at least 70 to go. That is the target set by my doctor, but I would like to loose another 100.
It is time I would probably use reading anyways and this way I am doing something to help myself physically too.

Wow, that is great! I hope I can do as well!

So far the ebook thing is motivating me. I even have taken a whole series by an author off my shelves and will be selling or giving them away shortly. More incentive to earn my ebooks so I can have them back in digital form.

This week I lost a surprising 1.6 pounds! I also competed in my first race, a one mile walk. I was dead last, but hey, it was fun and I got my exercise in for the day.

I think a 900 kcal a day diet is terrible but I think that if you were able to stick to it, you'd definitely lose weight. Ever seen those VLCD people that think they're going to live super long because of how few kcals they consume? They're all twigs.

I think on the Biggest Loser show they limit the women to 1200 and the men to 1800 kcal/day. But I think that is too extreme.

I'm losing just fine at around 1650-1750 a day. With fairly moderate exercise.

I use my kindle for exercise all the time, but no matter how many curls I do my biceps still aren't bulging. What am I doing wrong?

Load your kindle up with lit-ra-chure, doncha know. =}

Mayhap if I did more heavy reading?

I used my ebook reader to help me lose weight and it worked perfectly. You see I used it to read up on the ins and outs of a gastric bypass and once the medical research was done, I had the procedure. Took 4 months to lose nearly 150lbs. Does this count?

If I could read while exercising, I would... but I like to read lying down... :p

I've been using reading a great book as motivation for years. When I'm really into a book, after I wake up, I can't wait to start reading it and want to read it all day long. I simply tell myself that I can't start reading the book until I get on the StairMaster. Once I'm on, I can read all day if I want, but not before. My Sony 600 is my StairMaster dedicated reader. I keep it on the reading rack and a Mighty Bright Flex2 clipped on as well.

It's great motivation. It's when I just start a new book and not yet engrossed in it that it's less affective. If it's a series, like Stieg Larsson's Millenium series, that usually helps me warmed up a little faster.

I like that people are able to walk and read on treadmills and bike and read on stationary bikes, but that's never been comfortable for me. I like to have music when I am exercising. It just seems to hard for me to exercise AND concentrate on my reading at the same time.

If you get a chance, check out Spark by John J. Ratey. If BN has samples, the beginning is enough to "spark" your interest and gives you a sample of how phys ed before a child's hardest class has changed how kids learn in Naperville, IL. With that in mind, I have found that I comprehend better and more thoroughly if I read during or after I've gotten my body moving. When I read on the StairMaster, I don't go at high pace, slower, steadier and longer.

Plus I do some pool exercising and while I know there are waterproof cases for Nook, I'm not feeling like I want to go there yet.

I don't know about that, but I've used my vacuum sealer for my readers and taken them into the tub with me. It blows away taking in a real book and trying to turn the pages with wet hands, plus the chance that I can drop a real book into the tub and completely ruin it.

So far holding on. It's hard not eating when hungry, but having something to focus on earning like ebooks helps. I slipped a little on Monday and ate at about maintenance calories, but as long as I'm not overeating, I'm ahead of the game.

Gracyn, I'm sure you already know this but being hungry can work against weight loss. I did the Atkins' diet years ago, and it completely changed my life. The first thing I noticed is that I was never hungry and had to cut back on coffee because I had so much energy that I no longer needed the coffee and it just made me jittery. Of course, I love the taste of it, so I eased it back into my diet. I was against low carb/high protein & fat for so long, but after hour long sessions on the StairMonster and still feeling like if I miss a single workout, I'll gain 10 lbs., I finally got desperate and looked into. It was one of the absolute best gifts I've ever given myself. Plus, now when I eat a 20 oz rib eye with cheese and butter, I no longer feel guilty. I realised that I actually feel really good and never sluggish after a high protein and fat meal.

I think I am doing the complete opposite. I just sit in my living room with my Kindle and I occasionally get up to get some wine.

If you get a chance, check out Spark by John J. Ratey. If BN has samples, the beginning is enough to "spark" your interest and gives you a sample of how phys ed before a child's hardest class has changed how kids learn in Naperville, IL. With that in mind, I have found that I comprehend better and more thoroughly if I read during or after I've gotten my body moving. When I read on the StairMaster, I don't go at high pace, slower, steadier and longer.

That's interesting. I haven't noticed a difference myself in how well I comprehend before and after exercise. But then again, I've not paid that much attention to it and now I'll try and notice if there's a difference.

Because of my ankle and foot issues, I usually can't do machines for slow, steady and long. I can only do short sessions, so I tend to do a bit more intensity, which is partly why reading on the machines doesn't work as well for me as music does.

I do my slow, steady and long in the pool... but I use my arms there. No way to hold a reader in front of your face while doing crawl or breast stroke or even water jogging where you are pumping your arms or otherwise stroking with them!





Gracyn, I'm sure you already know this but being hungry can work against weight loss. I did the Atkins' diet years ago, and it completely changed my life. The first thing I noticed is that I was never hungry and had to cut back on coffee because I had so much energy that I no longer needed the coffee and it just made me jittery. Of course, I love the taste of it, so I eased it back into my diet. I was against low carb/high protein & fat for so long, but after hour long sessions on the StairMonster and still feeling like if I miss a single workout, I'll gain 10 lbs., I finally got desperate and looked into. It was one of the absolute best gifts I've ever given myself. Plus, now when I eat a 20 oz rib eye with cheese and butter, I no longer feel guilty. I realised that I actually feel really good and never sluggish after a high protein and fat meal.
I think it's an each to his own. I've tried lower carb for a while now, not super low carb, though I've done that too. Just didn't work. Weight loss was slow. I was hungry all the time, but also extremely low energy. Low carb would just get me craving fats like crazy... but eating more fat just made weight loss even slower. I do know that low carb works well for some, it just didn't do it for me. I'm not doing low fat either though! Just basic balance.

When I went to moderate carbs from mostly fruit and veggies, I found I was still too hungry and too low energy. I need *some* starchy & sugary carbs and have actually increased the carbs a little the last couple weeks and noticed that I feel better overall with the same deficit. And the weight loss is staying good! 1.6 pounds last week, 1.6 pounds this week! 7.2 pounds for the month!

Hunger wasn't quite as bad this week... I kind of aim for light hunger, and if it gets too bad, then I eat something. Same for headaches... light headache OK, bad headache signals I need to eat more.

Hunger is a funny thing. Before the surgery it was the enemy, the nemesis. Now? Well they speculate the surgery changes you in ways they don't understand. In my case it absolutely did away with hunger. For life. In all honesty I have not been hungry since 2005. Not once. No matter how long its been since I ate last, what I had, whatever. Sometimes I remember being hungry, what that was like; sometimes I might smell a piece of meat cooking on the grill and I remember that it should taste good. If I go too long w/o eating I eventually feel kind of "run down" but no actual hunger. In truth, I don't miss it. Its kind of like sleep; if you didn't need it, I mean really and truly did not need it, imagine what you could do with your life? Never going to happen, I know but while I miss the social aspects of eating and as a chef I miss that part but I don't miss much of the rest.

I use my iPad for accessing my FatSecret app and have some of my favorite recipes (PDF) on my unit. Of course I have cookbooks and You on a Diet book for reference. I can also use it on my elliptical. I find if I am engrossed in a good book, I am not as likely to snack and that helps cut calories!

I use my kindle for exercise all the time, but no matter how many curls I do my biceps still aren't bulging. What am I doing wrong?

Use your nook ... it's heavier :)

Use your nook ... it's heavier :)

This is the one time I can recommend an iPad; it's even heavier!

Oddly, that's another way I'm using my Nook these days!

I need to lose about 90 pounds, I'd previously lost 20 and kept that off the past four years, but simply couldn't motivate myself to endure the hunger pangs and rigors of losing any more. Yet, for the health of my feet, ankles and bad right knee, I need to do it.

One night, I started thinking about how much I loved having my Nook and worrying because as reading is a sedentary sort of pastime, I was afraid I might read even more and uh, possibly gain weight.

And then it occurred to me that motivation to lose weight and exercise was sitting right under my nose, so to speak!

:smack:

I'm using the Nook and buying ebooks as a REWARD INCENTIVE for my weight loss efforts. Normally, I don't buy books that often, but read borrowed library books instead. But this is working so far. With the idea of being able to buy an ebook or two if I stick to my calorie deficit and exercise, suddenly I can withstand the hunger, do the exercise and make real progress. Hubby is trying it too and he's making progress, where before, he never really even tried to diet. It makes me wonder if I've hit on something that could be useful for others?

At any rate, I put a page on my blog for how I'm working it, but I can clearly see that a reward motivation could work for just exercising or eating healthier or many other things, like uncluttering your house. (I'm kind of killing two birds with one stone on that... my first two weeks of ebook purchases have been to replace hardcovers on my bookshelves.)

Someone told me I was being creative, but I think it was sheer desperation. Still, dieting is fun again. I bought three ebooks this morning with my reward credits earned! Barnes & Noble ought to pay me for this idea! I think someone on the BN.com forums actually asked for a calorie counting app for Nook, so my plan would fit right in. :D

Nook Diet (https://thegardenweigh.wordpress.com/nook-diet/)

Anyway, since my nook inspired it, that's what I call it. But anyone with a reader can try it, maybe it can become the MobileRead diet for the owners of other readers. Or just the Reader Diet. For me, having ebooks besides freebies and classics was a BIG motivation. Two weeks, four pounds lost. (Naturally, the first week was mostly water, but this week was a very respectable 1.2 pounds. Better than normal for me!)

The thing is, weight loss isn't always linear, so you don't always get to see a result. But as you can get exercise credit with my idea, you can always get *some* kind of reward just for plain old persistence and not giving up.

good luck and hope it works...of course you could try my method. come down with some weird virus that went after my pancreas basically shutting down the beta cells so there is near to no insulin produced within a week of being affected...I lost nearly 80lbs in 2.5months. I am no forced to take medication which costs over $900/mo and still need to restrict carbs to under 100g/day around 50g/day seems to help the most. Unfortunately your body needs more than that to really work properly. Add to that the docs tell me the odds of my pancreas turning necrotic or developing pancreatitis, or better yet, thyroid cancer, due to the medication which is keeping me alive right now (my blood glucose levels reached 1000 mg/dL when I finally made myself see the doc after losing about 35lbs in two weeks while I was sick with what I thought was the flu, at which point I should have been dead already) is very high and maybe I have 5yrs left odds are it's more like 3-years at best. Fun stuff...but hey I am down nearly 95lbs as of yesterday...

Best fun is now they suspect on top of my JRA we see signs of MG as well...and the medical system has essentially ruined me so even if something happens and I last longer, I will be living in a refrigerator box die to the fact I was not able to get ANY sort of health insurance for the past 15-yrs.

btw, because of my RA which also involves associated lactose intolerance as well as celic this site has long been a wonferful source of info about foods which induce a more inflamatory reponse from your body. I do find if I stick more anti-inflamitory foods i feel better, well before the virus that was...but hunt through here to find excellent insights, some are plain dumb but glean through it for the good stuff...

http://nutritiondata.self.com/

http://nutritiondata.self.com/help/estimated-glycemic-load

Hunger is a funny thing. Before the surgery it was the enemy, the nemesis. Now? Well they speculate the surgery changes you in ways they don't understand. In my case it absolutely did away with hunger. For life. In all honesty I have not been hungry since 2005. Not once. No matter how long its been since I ate last, what I had, whatever. Sometimes I remember being hungry, what that was like; sometimes I might smell a piece of meat cooking on the grill and I remember that it should taste good. If I go too long w/o eating I eventually feel kind of "run down" but no actual hunger. In truth, I don't miss it. Its kind of like sleep; if you didn't need it, I mean really and truly did not need it, imagine what you could do with your life? Never going to happen, I know but while I miss the social aspects of eating and as a chef I miss that part but I don't miss much of the rest.

I've heard that the surgery does, sometimes, just do away with hunger altogether. Which would be nice! But it doesn't apparently always have that effect. I know at least two people who had the surgery, lost weight and then regained. One of them gained it all back, plus more, the other realized that she STILL had to watch what she ate and reined it back and started losing again.

I also have a friend for whom the surgery worked... only now that she has a serious cancer, she's having trouble getting her body enough of the nutrients she needs to fight it. I'm also dubious as to whether the surgery would help those who have emotional eating problems, because that's a mental kind of hunger.

At any rate, it surely works for some folks, but not all. I'll take the long road and leave my digestion system as nature intended it, rather than take the chance it would not work for me, aside from the issue of possible complications.

Last night it was tempting to go out after the movie hubby and I went to and get a treat, something we have often done in the past, but we both agreed that we had plenty of good stuff to eat at home and that's what we did. Hubby picked up a brand new, just out ebook this week as his reward!

I use my kindle for exercise all the time, but no matter how many curls I do my biceps still aren't bulging. What am I doing wrong?
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I've heard that the surgery does, sometimes, just do away with hunger altogether. Which would be nice! But it doesn't apparently always have that effect. I know at least two people who had the surgery, lost weight and then regained. One of them gained it all back, plus more, the other realized that she STILL had to watch what she ate and reined it back and started losing again.

I also have a friend for whom the surgery worked... only now that she has a serious cancer, she's having trouble getting her body enough of the nutrients she needs to fight it. I'm also dubious as to whether the surgery would help those who have emotional eating problems, because that's a mental kind of hunger.

At any rate, it surely works for some folks, but not all. I'll take the long road and leave my digestion system as nature intended it, rather than take the chance it would not work for me, aside from the issue of possible complications.

Last night it was tempting to go out after the movie hubby and I went to and get a treat, something we have often done in the past, but we both agreed that we had plenty of good stuff to eat at home and that's what we did. Hubby picked up a brand new, just out ebook this week as his reward!

<smile> I never said it was for everyone; it simply has worked exceedingly well for me. Granted I am only about 5 1/2 years into it so I cannot promise nothing will happen to me as a result but I can be pretty damned certain of what would have happened without it. The hunger part was more a curiosity than anything else; I just think its weird but thats not why I did it (and paid full-ticket for it; insurance was no help). I worked at a medical research firm and had access to some interesting but very real reports that showed that in over 95% of the cases, diabetics walked out of the hospital diabetes free. This was not a fashion thing; I was dying of Type II diabetes and when I saw my neighbor with the same thing go blind *and* have a leg amputated, I said screw it, I gotta do something because my wife depends on me to be whole and functional. I went into it taking a boat-load of meds for diabetes and walked out 48 hours later with zero (none) diabetic symptoms and no need for meds. Haven't had any since and for the most part I eat pretty normal food and the weight dropped like a stone to a specific weight within a few months and has remained there +/- 5 lbs ever since. I have never felt better. Admittedly I had a really good surgeon plus had it done when they knew more about it plus I was seriously motivated to make it work.

No, not for everyone but for me its been a life-saver and this year my health insurance went doing by a great deal because of it. Win-win situation for us.

My cousin once looked into the surgery and then decided not to do it. She died in her sleep in her early 40s. Would it have saved her? Maybe. Hard to say... she was also a smoker and had emphysema (sp?) in addition to being extremely overweight.

I'm realy glad surgery worked for you... and it did get my sister-in-law off insulin. Though, getting off diabetes meds and reversing that can also be accomplished with normal weigh loss.

However, for me, the risk of the surgery is too much. In my case, I don't have diabetes, I don't have high blood pressure (last week's reading 107/67), I don't have high cholesterol or any indications of heart disease. What I do have is a lot of discomfort, because I had many ankle sprains as a child and I also ripped up the cartilage in my knee in a bicycle accident as a teen. I've also suffered a work-related repetitive stress injury.

I guess I was born with the weak ankles, but I need to get the weight off them. Likewise for my knee. I know I can do it... I once lost 62 pounds in a year, but it's just harder with my foot/ankle/knee troubles. However, with the ebooks, I feel like I've found the right motivation to keep me on it. Or maybe the switch has finally flipped.

I am a bit worried about winter, because I hate cold and I hate lack of sunlight and we get fogged in usually for a couple months straight with no sun. But I have managed to lose weight during winter before, and I believe I can do it again.

All still going well... I lost 1.2 pounds this week, hubby 1.5 pounds. I'm off to go ebook shopping.

My cousin once looked into the surgery and then decided not to do it. She died in her sleep in her early 40s. Would it have saved her? Maybe. Hard to say... she was also a smoker and had emphysema (sp?) in addition to being extremely overweight.

I'm realy glad surgery worked for you... and it did get my sister-in-law off insulin. Though, getting off diabetes meds and reversing that can also be accomplished with normal weigh loss.

However, for me, the risk of the surgery is too much. In my case, I don't have diabetes, I don't have high blood pressure (last week's reading 107/67), I don't have high cholesterol or any indications of heart disease. What I do have is a lot of discomfort, because I had many ankle sprains as a child and I also ripped up the cartilage in my knee in a bicycle accident as a teen. I've also suffered a work-related repetitive stress injury.

I guess I was born with the weak ankles, but I need to get the weight off them. Likewise for my knee. I know I can do it... I once lost 62 pounds in a year, but it's just harder with my foot/ankle/knee troubles. However, with the ebooks, I feel like I've found the right motivation to keep me on it. Or maybe the switch has finally flipped.

I am a bit worried about winter, because I hate cold and I hate lack of sunlight and we get fogged in usually for a couple months straight with no sun. But I have managed to lose weight during winter before, and I believe I can do it again.

I used to live in a place like that and we decided to move someplace sunny and have never regretted it. It can change your whole outlook on a day and waking up to see blue skies, sunshine and palm trees swaying in the breeze 300+ days per year, it has left us in a better place.....also while yes weight-loss can result in many of the same effects as I had (within 24 hours of the surgery) it is a statistical fact that something like 80 percent of the people who actually do lose weight "the old fashioned way" tend to relapse...don't listen to me, ask your doctor for the stats.

Usually if I'm reading I don't eat: that's the way it was for pb/hb because I didn't want grease stains from cookies etc. in the spine or coffee splashed over the page.

I'm keeping the same habit with my reader so it's been good so far. Sedentary activity, yes but if it's ALL you do while you are reading then it's possible to lose some weight - I'm in the market to loose 40#s and books have been the answer.